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Kyory Lau
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Nice oversold. Technical rebound anytime coming week
Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Cheng, how would we know what’s the VIP hold rate?
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Tok Tiong
Genting Sing very cheap now. DY 6.3%
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cheng
its not mentioned in the report usually, lim. Its just a generic statement of vip hold rate trend - higher or lower. Analysts tends to get the info from the mgmt via investor briefing / notes. The latest report did not mention anything about high or low hold rate. Hence, I assumed its normal to marginal improvement compared to q4.
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J
Good resilience shown by GENT share price despite poor showing of GENS result. If this is sustainable, it means the share price has effectively bottomed out. not much downside and plenty of upside awaits
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cheng
20% market share for GenS based on Q1FY26 versus 18% in Q4FY25. Chen Si has a tough job to increase the market share to 30%
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Daniel
Just look at the market reaction and Genting Singapore share price this morning ! Q1 might be well supported by Mass markets due to festive periods. The litmus test is on the VIP gaming hold rate.
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cheng
its probably the headlines of 55% net profit down without understanding the underlying factors, daniel :) as for the improved gaming results in q1fyfy26 vs q4fy25: 11% higher qoq gaming revenue and 6% higher qoq adjusted ebitda - its probably just a marginal improvement/flattish VIP hold rate; nothing unusually high or deteriorating. The interest income contribution will not increase in the short term due to RWS2.0 final phase towards 2030, hence, the yoy baseline comparison for net profit will not reflect the true picture. The qoq adjusted ebitda/ebitda and margin will be a better comparison coupled with market share of RWS in my personal opinions. I am just using simple methodology for market share - GenS gaming revenue divided by total gaming revenue for GenS and MBS.
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Jackie Tan
cheng 比起qoq是有进步 但是需要更努力
目前MBS 1,850 间房 RWS只有 1,600 间房 相差250
MBS 周边 1 公里内的五星级客房总量就轻松超过 4,000 - 5,000 间
RWS 周边其余酒店合计提供约 2,000 - 2,500 间客房 RWS下一个爆发点只能等superninendo和酒店库存增加拉近距离
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cheng
I still think GenS needs to work harder to increase the VIPs hold rate, jackie. They have to figure out how to entice the VIPs to spend in their property instead of MBS :) At the same time, GenS has to keep the ebitda margin at 30%/above. Anything below 30% is not good. It is impossible to challenge MBS due to location which is understandable. Lets monitor and see whether Chen Si can increase RWS gaming market share towards 30%.
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Jackie Tan
cheng RTS link 开始新加波会是受惠因为jb没有完整的mrt 去了jb还要塔车塔巴士 相反新加波有完整的mrt无缝链接到sentosa 很适合家庭尤其是优质主题乐园
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Vin Vin
Look at this few years... Gens after renovation oceanarium, weave mall... minionsland and laurus hotel ..but EBITDA and profit damn weak ..Donno what happen
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J
As I said, GENT is severely lacking of impactful and undisputed good results. Notwithstanding the analysis by Cheng, the improvement is marginal and not significant. At the end of the day, the fact is net profit drops 55%. In my opinion, harping on EBITDA is also not good enough. You may have improving or high EBITDA, but the moment you reported low net profit, that's the undisputed poor performance indicator. If looking beyond the surface number is helpful to share price, will not be at rm2.5
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cheng
lets not forget that GenS net cash position now may change to net debt after 2030 - depending on how much is the capex needs from now until 2030 for the waterfront development side.
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J
That'll be even worse. I can tell GENT doesn't care about the share price now. it's goal is to expand outside regardless of the cost to guard against the possible morality police in Malaysia if a certain party came to power. This is a real risk. Pahang is at borderline losing ground. Selangor isn't that safe too. Not sure the current Malaysia casino is at which state
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J
in fact, i feel that GENT doesn't want it's share price to be high as to not attract attention from the religious bigot. You can imagine the spin in media by a certain bigotry politicians on how can Malaysia allows a "gambling" company to play a significant role in Bursa
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Eddy Khoo
just wait for June. the boss just wanna it be cheap enough for privatization and delisting.
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cheng
boss better not disappoint the IBs. Else, the tp target will shift lower. Lol, no pun intended. https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/MY/XKLS/3182/research-ratings
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Vin Vin
Maybe wsj haven't update their TP yet... gens qe profit maybe below 50m sgd as well since alot flight cancelled from china to Singapore.... good luck to genting shareholders...
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cheng
The probable reason why Catskills non-gaming asset sale status has been quiet; restriction on asset sale arising from the Wells Fargo refinancing plan - Officials have not publicly clarified whether the refinancing replaces the earlier proposal or whether the LDC transaction remains under consideration as a parallel or contingency option. The Sullivan County Industrial Development Agency declined to comment on the refinancing and whether it affects the LDC transaction. Meghan Taylor, senior vice president of government affairs and public relations for Resorts World New York, also declined to answer questions about the company’s plans.
In a statement, Stefan Friedman, a spokesman for Resorts World Catskills, did not directly address whether the refinancing would replace the earlier proposal. “We continue to explore all options for refinancing Resorts World Catskills and appreciate the longtime work and support of both the county and the IDA,” Friedman said. A local attorney who has closely followed the IDA’s handling of Resorts World Catskills said the refinancing structure could ultimately determine whether the earlier proposal moves forward. David Brittenham said refinancing through a private credit facility would address the company’s near-term debt obligations independently of the LDC plan. “The likelihood here… they’re probably doing a five-to-seven-year term loan,” Brittenham said. He added that such financing arrangements typically include restrictions on major asset sales.
“There’s going to be… a covenant that says you can’t sell assets… and an asset sale of that size would simply be prohibited,” he said. Brittenham said those restrictions could make a transaction like the previously proposed LDC asset purchase difficult to execute under a new financing structure.
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Jegan Dorairaj
Ur analysis OUT
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Vin Vin
lucky gent just sold flng around 180m will add into next qe
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cheng
The deal will be completed by Jul'26 for downstream while upstream before Feb'27, Vin - Rukun Raharja and its subsidiary, Raharja Energi Cepu (Ratu), will pick up a 5% interest in both the Kasuri production sharing contract in West Papua province (upstream divestment) and in Layar Nusantara Gas, the entity developing the project’s midstream and FLNG facility (downstream divestment).
Genting said the downstream divestment is expected to complete by the end of July, while completion of the upstream deal, which is subject to conditions including approval by Indonesia’s upstream regulator SKK Migas and the host government, is anticipated no later than February 2027.
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cheng
usd38.5mil deal for downstream and usd9.6mil for upstream based on the IDNFinancials information previously.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Genting Singapore share price really kena punished kawkaw today.
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cheng
I am wondering what will be the atmosphere for the 11 Jun AGM.
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John Liew
Ya... Flip table and egg throwing
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Vin Vin
Just noticed gens sbb 4,000,000 today ... maybe tmr will sbb again ..
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cheng
1.6bil revenue from New York casino and RWNYC revenue at 980mil. RWNYC is the highest grossing casino in US but ebitda margin trending down to below 20%. What is RWNYC mgmt doing? Lol, no pun intended. https://www.americangaming.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/AGA-State-of-the-States-2026.pdf
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Leo
I think US people are not as rich as you think.
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Daniel
SBB will be wasteful as it is better to let market dictates the share price. Fifth floor soon unless GenS continues with aggressive SBB. Cash position can be duly depleted once development expenditures fully utilised as part of the licensing renewal requirements.
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cheng
count me in if it is 5th floor. eyeing mid of 5th floor if Mr. Market is willing.
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Daniel
Mid to High fifth floor will be good investment in GenS indeed so long as not pulled in to support US ventures.
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cheng
yup. pause all capex on Bimini Resorts, Catskills and Hudson Valley. It will be better to sell these assets. Keep RWG, RWNYC, RWLV and RWS. RWNYC + RWLV = "RWA"
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Ashley Ma
Jialat。阿Sun 小姐又要鬼上身乱喊乱叫。呵呵
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Daniel
“GenS VIP business in quarter ended 31 March 2026 was contrary to seasonal trends where the first quarter has typically been the peak quarter for gaming in Singapore. The pace of recovery from RWS2.0 investments has proven materially slower than anticipated. Transformation costs at Resorts World Sentosa were likely to remain elevated through 2026 as part of the gaming licence renewal requirements. Their aggressive and continuous cost cutting exercise in gaming programmes for VIPs, higher airfares that are weighing on travel demand and softening consumer sentiment will significantly affect their VIP hold rate moving forward.”
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cheng
All eyes on Chen Si to focus on gaming performance; particularly the VIP hold rate. VIP hold rate jump, ebitda jump. Additional bonus if he can further increase the ebitda margin to high thirties.
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Vin Vin
This gens Qe same like previous Q4 .. and Gent q4 make loss as well...
this qe I think turned RED too... prepare guys ...
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cheng
GenS single digit sequential improvement compared to Q4, Vin. And GenP Q4 performance should not repeat in Q1FY26 and should recover back closer to Q3 if not higher than that. Gent's performance will then depends on impairments and US assets performance. MY assets should not be worse than Q4 due to festive season. Should not be a loss if US assets performance is similar to Q4 and no extraordinary impairments.
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J
so, we are expecting 100-200 mil net profit at best
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cheng
200mil impairment in q4 which was huge. If there are no negative surprises for impairment in q1fy2026 and US assets, net profit may stretch higher than that, J
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Vin Vin
gens just break from 0.60 to 0.595..
what a joke !
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Daniel
Expected despite the 4 cents dividend. I heard from friends that VIP gaming privileges will be cut further from 1/6/26, which will make it even less competitive with MBS and regional competitors from Q2 onwards. Someone/Analysts should just do a weekend visitation after 1/6/26 to assess the VIP gaming crowd.
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cheng
the VIP gaming privileges that your friend mentioned is probably referring to the VIP from the loyalty card membership, Daniel? The actual VIP that affects the gaming segment is referring to those that bet millions in rolling chip. I doubt GenS/Gent will touch the privileges for the high rollers VIP. The loyalty card VIP privileges cut is a good move - cost savings.
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J
Hopefully GENT QR is encouraging in the coming report. This company is seriously in need of a good news
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Jackie Tan
The Chairman noted that Mr Si had only recently joined the organisation and that Management was
allowing him time to familiarise himself with the Group’s business. The Chairman expressed
confidence that Mr Si would be able to deliver in his role. On Mr Si’s role, Ms Lee clarified that Mr
Si is responsible for significant parts of the IR, including not only the casino, but also the hospitality
business operations
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Daniel
Not the usual loyalty card membership. Apparently, focussing on “Premium Status” players. In any case, let’s see after QR2 results if their cost savings exercise is beneficial. When Management makes wrong cost savings decision, it will be difficult for their Marketing Department to compete with regional competitors. Otherwise, GenS share price should not be dipping < 0.60.
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Jackie Tan
shareholder can expect for greater sentosa plan The Greater Sentosa Master Plan – which is for Sentosa and Pulau Brani – will also see Sentosa’s beachfronts upgraded to accommodate more event spaces catering to a larger variety of activities.
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cheng
Alright, Daniel.
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cheng
thats right, jackie. Chen Si joined in Dec'25. He is equivalent to Paul Town of MBS :) So, the boss is trying to mirror what MBS is doing.
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cheng
Chen Si seems to have impressive background. I am interested to see the numbers for Q3FY2026 and Q4FY2026 - one year on the job and whether any impact on the VIP hold rate / gaming. 1st qtr on board saw 11% qoq operational improvement for gaming. https://www.gamblinginsider.com/executive/246/chen-si
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cheng
retest 2.20 for double bottom?
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Daniel
Potential snap election sentiment:-|
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cheng
ooh. the same old story of certain party will close Genting's casino? we have no absolute control on that :) replace the tax revenue from Genting by increasing tax from other areas? Lol, no pun intended.
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Vin Vin
possible after qe,..break 2.20
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cheng
Noted, Vin. will wait for the qr results. Cant wait to get updates on the atmosphere at the upcoming AGM.
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Jackie Tan
cheng 35% tax on gross gaming revenue + 8%SST 扣除支出 云顶还要再纳税24% 加起来税收是很惊人 还没算其他牌照的钱
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Daniel
Overall, negative sentiment on equities with regard to snap elections news and political uncertainties. PAS likely to gain stronger foothold/votes in GE16 and can even snatch a few other States like Pahang
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cheng
true jackie, daniel. we have no controls over politicians rhetorics. just decide for ourselves whether is it risk on or risk off will do.
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Daniel
Absolutely. Risks appetite. Big funds always place high weightage & considerations on political risks parameters.
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cheng
i think for the case of genting - the leverage has a bigger say. higher leverage and low shareholder return. any further debt funded capex moving forward will drag it lower. mgmt has to do something for US assets - freeze capex for catskills, bimini resorts and hudson valley in the mean time :) the longer they take to list US assets, the lower valuation it is? dragged by underperforming US assets.
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Daniel
True. Even GenS might use up all their internal surplus funds for transformation programmes plus dividends and external financing options, including bank borrowings and other funding instruments, would also need to be considered as part of the company’s broader capital management strategy going forward. The underperforming US assets will require a lot of Cash.
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cheng
GenP results is out and it is better than Q4/closer to Q3 :) GenS is better than Q4:) it's trending to a breakeven QR for Gent assuming GenM performance is same as Q4 (for both MY and US assets) and normalised impairment ~<40mil instead of 200 mil in Q4.
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Vin Vin
tmr will be gent qe... hope won't huge loss
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cheng
Nevada's GGR/The Strip Area for Q1'26 is not too bad comparing to seasonally strong Q4'25. Mar was really good driven by baccarat - Driven by a sharp increase in baccarat hold, the Las Vegas Strip saw a 14% increase in gaming revenue. The city’s tourism agency is set to release visitor numbers later Thursday that show the month’s statistics are “up meaningfully.”

The Strip had $779.9 million, up 14.4% from $681.6 million in March 2025, according to numbers from the Nevada Gaming Control Board.
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cheng
The hold rate for baccarat was pretty good too. Anyway, assuming RWLV performance is the same as Q4 and GenM similar as Q4, and normalised impairment, it's trending to breakeven QR conservatively, Vin. Q3 is the real test.
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Vin Vin
hope Q3 rwny table casino will bring more profit to genm and gent
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Vin Vin
Cheng , if tmr huge loss again .. gent may break 2.20.... quite scary ... more scary than horror movie " The mummy"
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cheng
Going below 2.20 due to QR loss is not that scary, Vin. Cash flow deterioration/turning negative will be bad.
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Eddy Khoo
most hanky panky impairments done in Q42025. shouldn't make a loss though may not make big profits
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cheng
GenM's MY assets (RWG) didn't do very well in Q4'25, the ebitda margin dipped quite a bit. The outcome in Q1'26 will be different if the margin recovers.
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Steven Lee
2.36买不买呢
genting被他坑怕了
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cheng
depending on what makes you thinking of whether to buy Gent or not, Steven. If you are thinking about price is at the low side but scared going lower, then, you should wait for the qr first. there is no rush and you get to avoid the volatility from the qr noise.
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Vin Vin
Guys , get ready to see huge loss qe from genting again ? 2 more hours remaining
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cheng
dont scare me, Vin :) I am in the same boat with you. you jump i jump.
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Vin Vin
When u expected something bad. . when is ready come ..u won't feel much sad... Learn from Dr . phycologist.. I always visit Dr once in 3 months before genting qe
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cheng
ok, got it :) I will wait for q3 results to decide whether hold or sell.
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J
Holding genting has caused you too much psychology stress Vin
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cheng
I believed Vin is just joking, J :)
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Vin Vin
haha.... not sure today GEnt qe will out anot....maybe next week
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cheng
its out, Vin :) you can sleep well. lets keep fighting for Q2 and then Q3
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Jackie Tan
RWLV 表现不错 Q2会更强 如果排除RWNYC转型期间影响 美国表现会更强
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cheng
RWLV saved the day and solid recovery in ebitda margin from single digit to mid twenties. RWG flattish revenue but ebitda margin recovery back to thirties. GenM's US and Bahamas assets ebitda margins flattish revenue and margin. Q2 for GenM's US and Bahamas segment is the first real test due to RWNYC live table games contribution.
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Jackie Tan
cheng RWLV 在新的管理层带领下 ebitda margin 从10%多跳去 24% 人才管理就是不一样 SG CEO感觉不太行应该也重组
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Vin Vin
haha !! can sleep well tonight!
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Man Han
Revenue drop a lot even chinese new year and hari raya
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cheng
The hold rate for baccarat in Mar across the Strip Area (RWLV is located here) was good; coming in at 20% vs 14% the previous year, Jackie. The higher footfall traffic & hold rate plus cost optimisation are probably the reasons that contributed to the recovery of RWLV. The ideal ebitda margin for me should be at thirties.
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cheng
Lol, Vin. Your method works. Q2 is going a big red QR again? Lol. No pun intended
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Vin Vin
Seriously... I thought will red qe .. world cup coming soon... I hope rwlv will doing well too...
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cheng
The recovery in ebitda margin looks promising. GenS working on gaming enhancements and let's see whether Q2 will be better than Q1. Need the hold rate to go up.
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Vin Vin
Q2 got rwny support ... and genp will look good as well.. hope the deal of selling flng will added into Q2
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
So Ah Tai is smart to invest big in US market? Haha
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cheng
FLNG deal will be completed by Jul'26, Vin. Will be in Q3 unless the deal is closed by next month. GenS 570mil adjusted ebitda vs personal target of 800mil and US assets 280mil vs 300mil personal target. GenS will have to count on Chen Si to bring in more VIPs and increase the hold rate.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
No one expecting RWLV did so well after underperforming for so long.
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Vin Vin
thx alot Cheng ! let's wait another one year.... can't believe Rwlv doing well on this qe...
btw rwlv earn because of one off gain by assets disposed?
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cheng
The Strip area did really well in Mar as reported by Nevada gaming commission, daniel. Strong baccarat ggr and hold rate as I read it. This could also contributed to the recovery.
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cheng
Not that I am aware of, Vin. after all, the adjusted ebitda typically do not include gain/loss from asset disposal. I saw the remarks noted RWLV occupancy was at 92% and adr at 290. It was at lower 80% occupancy and adr averaging at 260 last year. There is also remarks of higher high-end play with increased table volumes and hold percentage within range. And this is also noted in the report - RWLV remains focused on re-establishing VIP play and building a consistent casino loyalty base. In addition, RWLV will continue to leverage the new hotel system, which now allows RWLV to own the hotel customer database, giving RWLV flexibility to provide real time hotel offers and enhanced customer experience to guests. Combined with investment in an upgraded casino offer management system, RWLV will yield a stronger customer mix via casino, convention and direct bookings
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Jackie Tan
Tan said they’re fortunate in finding Carlos Castro as the new CEO, who often works until 8 p.m. and sometimes stays at the property overnight. He said he was shocked Castro gets going so early in the morning as well. https://cdcgaming.com/resorts-world-las-vegas-financial-performance-is-a-blip-and-will-improve-genting-berhad-ceo-says/
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Vin Vin
Thx for the info Sir Cheng !
Hope Rwlv result will getting better in the future... World cup coming soon ... definitely will boost rwlv result as well... recently gens keep sbb...maybe privatise soon ? like genm ... hehe..
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