Kyory Lau's comment on GENTING. All Comments

Kyory Lau
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Nice oversold. Technical rebound anytime coming week
cheng
good discussion but remember to wait for LKT to deliver results first. do nothing until then :)
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*THE ASSASSIN*
Absolutely. Figures Speak Louder Than Words :-)
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cheng
time will tell whether Singapore's gomen plan with regards to Greater Sentosa Master Plan will meet its objectives of integrating the development of Sentosa with the neighbouring 120-hectare (200,000-square-metre) Brani Island, creating an expanded tourism precinct featuring new landmarks, reimagined beaches and coastlines, enhanced transport infrastructure and a stronger emphasis on nature-based experiences.
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Jackie Tan
cheng forget japan not good choice as that area earthquake frequency
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cheng
true but not up to us to decide unfortunately, jackie. GenS will be the most likely candidate if LKT decided to participate; from Genting's group of companies perspective. hopefully, LKT will seriously consider US assets listing asap :)
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Jackie Tan
as high interest rate enviroment and uncertainly geopolitic risky example: wynn already get hit by middle east crisis
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*THE ASSASSIN*
GenS will not have the financial resources to embark on expansion to Japan at present. US assets listing is the only way forward for Genting Group. With the additional financial resources available, they can then made RWS property more premium and more appealing to higher-value customers before MBS completes their Tower 4 expansion. There are very few casinos that have the financial muscle to buy out RWS at fair valuation currently based on casino duopoly in one of the world’s top gambling venues.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
GenP just released their QR, tomorrow should be GenM and GenB.
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John LTL
Guess how much dividend declared tomorrow.
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Steven Gan
我觉得不会派息吧?之前管理层不是说了吗?
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John LTL
管理层什么时候说过?嘻嘻。
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Steven Gan
stronggggg!!!!2.5 by today??
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cheng
All eyes on RWLV q2fy26 results next week for another higher qoq and yoy? q1fy26 was better than q4fy25 and q1fy25.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Cheng, GenP result was out yesterday, today GB turn.
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cheng
ooh. i thought its normally the last thursday of the month
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cheng
lets wait for the results then. rwlv adjusted ebitda in q1 was ~200mil while q4 was ~60mil. potential rerating if q2 delivers more than 200mil. lets wait for LKT to deliver the results first.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
since opening, RWLV highest annual ebitda was ~RM880M, let's see if this financial year can break higher.
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*THE ASSASSIN*
Soon, they will be working for the banks if borrowings position and interest rate/funding cost continues to increase ! Borrowings position kept increasing QoQ/YoY and high finance cost that ate into meagre QR profit for a gaming industry PLC.
From previous Cash rich company to high Nett borrowing company.
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Steven Gan
Sudah No Hope liao
besok Balik 2.1 🤣
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mrs xlg
我赌 明日会开低走高 不会大跌
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Steven Gan
Onnnnnnnnn...那么我看情况再加码,我的底线2.18。。。哈哈
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mrs xlg
我的本钱2.8以上都没怕过你怕什么
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mrs xlg
你玩很大 玩500k以上?
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sk TAN
感覺跌也跌不多了,市場低價要賣也差不多給大戶吸了。。。可能就是股價平盤一段時間咯
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mrs xlg
最低也2.0-2.1
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Steven Gan
看看明天走势,看看有没有人踩人先,哈哈
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来都来了
all Q limit down short kaw2
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来都来了
short to 0.005 then console 100 1
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sk TAN
根据彭博市场数据,云顶过去52周累计下跌26%,表现逊于彭博追踪的同业股平均跌幅1.2%,同期富时马股指数则上涨11%。

不过,云顶近期股价走势明显回暖,过去5个交易日累计上涨8.1%,过去30天则上涨0.4%。

估值方面,云顶目前以未来12个月预估每股盈利13倍交易,过去12个月每股盈利则相当于0.7倍。

该股目前市账率(P/B)约0.3倍。
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馬拉ck
连抢劫犯也欺负上云顶了
需要转转运了 bless
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sk TAN
重新估值的價錢在rm2.21 x13 P/E
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sk TAN
如果市場給14P/E,也就是rm2.38
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Steven Gan
ok , tomorow give u XD
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sk TAN
是不是最近市場交易的價錢
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*THE ASSASSIN*
Malaysia’s tax/duty increases on gambling and casino gaming in Budget 2027 (only 2 months away) is always a meaningful possibility since Government need additional revenue. The government might even consider raising the annual casino gaming licence fee from RM120 million to RM150 million and gaming tax on casinos to 35% of gross gaming revenue (GGR).
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
@cheng this quarter RWLV ebitda at RM100M. Not as good as last quarter RM200M, but can see their business is pickup up nicely. Last year total annual ebitda only RM250M.
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sk TAN
看新聞報道,沒有一間說財務惡化,營運不善,只是說蒙虧。。。。應該是不敢得罪林老板。哈哈
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
如果要你卖票,就会写到够力够力咯。不然怎样吓散户卖票
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Elton Chan
Rm1 可以考虑考虑。
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cheng
adjusted ebitda for rwlv is indeed at ~100mil which translates to 13.3% margin versus 200mil 24% margin in q1fy26, daniel. fy25 quarterly adjusted ebitda margin for rwlv was below 10%. feels like a mix of seasonal revenue and fixed cost if you will. RWG and RWS adjusted ebitda margin are good. Its the US assets dragging the performance again whereby the margin is in tens.
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Jackie Tan
cheng U.S take time ramp up revenue indicating U.S is major engine
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cheng
RWLV recovery is making progress, jackie. Hope to see qtrly adjusted ebitda touching 30% for RWLV in q3. GenM's US & Bahamas segment is probably dragged down by Empire and Bimini resorts.
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Jackie Tan
not bad la ebitda growth 50% at ram up period they need empire to lower tax rate in future
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cheng
But not good enough yet for me, Jackie. Will consider adding if rwlv's adjusted ebitda margin moves closer to 30% in Q3. Else, will exit the position.
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Jackie Tan
30% very difficult too much competitor nearby 20% will be more realistic
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*THE ASSASSIN*
US assets return just not good enough due to stiff competition despite taking up such high Group debts. Otherwise, other more prominent global gaming company would have pursued previous US licence bidding. Without US assets listing soon, it is better to exit the position.
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Jackie Tan
U.S return havent fully releash potential 1H26 U.S segment officially become major contribute then is SG last is MY
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Ever since RWLV was built, depreciation charges to Genting has increased ~RM1B a year. Together with interest expenses around RM0.5B a year, RWLV has to make at least RM1.5B in annual ebitda to breakeven. At the current run rate of ~RM500M annual ebitda, there will be at least RM1B of loss coming from RWLV alone. That's why we are seeing profit in almost all other businesses such as GenS,GenM,GenP but still seeing losses in GenB.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Besides that, GB is owning 100% of RWLV comparing to just ~50-70% in GenS/GenM/GenP, therefore making it more susceptible to incur loss in its quarterly/annual results.
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来都来了
let's short to 1c then console
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cheng
new low at the back of positive remarks from analysts :) “We forecast Genting Malaysia’s U.S. operations – Resorts World New York City, Resorts World Catskills, Resorts World Hudson Valley,” and “Resorts World Bimini” in the Bahamas, “to contribute 36 percent to group EBITDA in full-year 2027 or up 20 percentage points from full-year 2025,” wrote analyst Samuel Yin Shao Yang.
Maybank said that, in particular, it was “bullish” on RWNYC, in downstate New York. RWNYC had been an electronic-games venue, but relaunched at the end of April as a full-service casino after winning a full casino licence from the state authorities. The venue will undergo a US$5.5-billion expansion up to 2030, as a condition of its new licence.

“From 242 new tables deployed” at RWNYC “on 28 April 2026, U.S. EBITDA jumped 169 percent quarter-on-quarter to MYR216.6 million,” Mr Yin observed. The analyst added: “Third-quarter 2026 to date, RWNYC gross gaming revenue (GGR) has also been trending higher as operations ramp up. It plans to raise its table count – including deploying VIP tables – to 400 by early next year.”
“An additional 150 tables is expected to be added by January 2027 in existing space, bringing the total number of table games to 400. The final casino should allow for 6,000 slots and 800 tables by January 2029,” said the investment bank at the time.
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Eddy Khoo
not easy to hold on to Genting shares as it s at the mercy of the boss Lim. But I believe it s almost there. this is like the bottom and most depressed point in Genting. the boss would throw all the worst news and negative results ever by Q3 to squeeze out majority shareholders.
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cheng
400 table games by Jan 2027 vs the initial 240 tables; VIP tables incoming. Additionally, the total slots machine has been increased from 2500 to 3900 last month. look forward to q3 - summer holiday followed by year end - xmas and new year holiday season.
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Eddy Khoo
@cheng, boss can impair all the losses and also ramp up cost for renovations, purchases of machines and tables, headcount cost, etc in Q3 and Q4 to make it looks bad.
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Teh Kang Lik
The boss will use the lowest point to calculate the fair price for the share buyback, just like he did for GENM.
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cheng
that's true, eddy. Let the boss do what he wants. :) We just measure the performance accordingly and determine whether it meets our own expectations.
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cheng
May not be a bad move though. Gent is holding more than 70% of GenM, teh. More than 70% of GenM's profit attributable to Gent's shareholders.
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Eddy Khoo
thus, I don't think there would be any good results for the next 2 quarters. don't forget he may need to suppress genm price for his upcoming privatization again in Dec. so that would easily mean he won't let the price runs until then.
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Eddy Khoo
as for the holding of genm, it basically sitting on a 27.6% paper loss now as Gent offered 2.35 to acquire the shares and now genm is trading at 1.70
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Eddy Khoo
I wonder if he could use this as reason to do more impairment losses in the next 2 quarters just like what happened to nexg.
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Vin Vin
genting sold 5% of flng will contribute to next qe...which 130-140m myr...
lkt salary never cut even qe look bad ..and why he care about qe much ? he did mentioned at AGM... and won't support share price anymore...let's hope any surprise of taurx and up coming FLNG..
last time one genting msia and gens... share price RM8-10 with 25-30b market cap...
until today... only 7.9b... feel shame of it
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Jackie Tan
his salary based on ebitda
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股神
1.5 is coming soon jajajaja
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Steven Lee
1.5genting
oinn身家hoot他
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cheng
TauRx is currently awaiting the outcome of a marketing authorisation application submitted to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) for its lead drug, a tablet intended to target early Alzheimer’s disease. A decision is expected this year. https://nrtimes.co.uk/taurx-brings-patient-advocacy-groups-together-in-london-as-mhra-decision-looms/
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cheng
as usual, no coverage on this or the reason behind price being suppressed? business as usual if Taurx didnt get the approval. However, positive rerating if Taurx receives the approval.
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Eddy Khoo
there would be a specific EAG review scheduled on Sept 16 and CHM scheduled on Sept 17. these two meetings mostly would discuss on the taurx drug.I said this because the specific EAG on Sept 16 is a subgroup for Neurology, Pain and Psychiatry which Taurx drug falls under this expertise.
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cheng
lets wait for the outcome first. should be in time to hop on still; upon approval announcement.
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teikchye kee
@Kyory Lau, pls slap ur face 10x...hahaha
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*THE ASSASSIN*
As expected 2.00 resistance & support level finally broken. Next nice numbers 1.88 & 1.68 :-|
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meteng.kangsar kangsar
God bless genting … lousiest blue chip
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cheng
Queens lawmakers are joining Resorts World’s push for lower taxes. The boss is so powerful? https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/?q=resorts+world+letter
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teikchye kee
u hari² kena slap @Kyory Lau...hahaha
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fei fun
basically casino is cash making biz, high debt if manageable will generate future profit
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cheng
lets wait for the q3 results and evaluate the mgmt performance by then; particularly cost efficiency :) seasonally strong tourist arrivals in Jul and Aug for SG and summer holidays for RWNYC and RWLV. hold rate for RWNYC is pretty consistent at the 19-20% which is pretty good. July was a strong month for Strip's casinos
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mint 1123
老板天天在公司拿几亿出来当自己的薪水。这种是掏空公司的行为。。。公司就是一个无底洞
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Vin Vin
目前的市场。。什么股也跌..如果有注意看的话。。9月开始。很多股都跌了20-30%。。Sunway ...之内。。。
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馬拉ck
之前大趋势的股 是时候开始下跌趋势了
30b 有点不合理了

更别说10b的建筑儿子
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Vin Vin
在股市10多年了。。有什么大场面没见过。。 可以守的话。。多几年也是会慢慢回来
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Ziling Nyon
現在唯一可以做的就是用時間換空間但扞下這樣多美元債務不是幾年就可以還清,十年之後也不知道可否還得清
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Vin Vin
看看mgm debt 多少。。31b usd ... las Vegas sand 也是debt 500多亿。。。
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Tteffub Nerraw
There’s sufficient information from the financial and market signals. No need for conspiracy theories :)

The bigger question is cash flow and leverage: TTM Jun-26 operating cash flow was RM3.90b, but capex was RM5.64b, giving negative FCF of RM1.74b. Net debt reached RM28.1b, while interest coverage fell to 1.69x.

So personally, I wouldn’t assume we’ve seen the bottom yet. The key is whether cash generation improves and debt starts coming down.

Dr. Cheng Sifu, perhaps you can advise on the latest status of TauRx and HMTM? That could be an important part of the picture.
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Lim Zi Yen
Nanti margin call jatuh mengejut jual jual
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cheng
no doubt rwlv is improving but ebitda margin has to go higher to twenties; dragged by operating cost/expenses - overhead and fixed cost. show us the results if you will :) lets see how are you doing in Q3 with the summer package. https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/resorts-world-enters-its-next-chapter-after-5-years-on-the-strip-3892214/
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cheng
Genting America Inc vs RAV Bahamas case: Genting filed motion to dismiss the case recently back in May'26 and hearing in progress. no decision from the court on the motion yet. Something else came up in the meantime whereby RAV's boss Capo is being sued by his own son-in-law. Lol, no pun intended. Quickly sort this out and dispose off the Bimini Resort business which is dragging the group. https://www.tribune242.com/news/2026/jun/16/capo-son-in-laws-two-decade-tax-fraud-claim/
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cheng
The Miami land turning into Miami Bay Towers. The project is a proposal by the Gómez Platero architecture firm that envisions four towers, a 300-room hotel, retail, and public spaces. Right now, it's just an idea, and has not been approved for construction. - In 2023, Genting announced a deal to sell the property for about $1.225 billion to SmartCity Miami, a group linked to developer David Martin and Terra. Local leaders greeted the announcement with optimism. Then-Mayor Francis Suarez even publicly highlighted the site’s strategic value. But the transaction never closed. SmartCity sought extensions and changes to the deal terms—requests Genting rejected. The offer was ultimately withdrawn, and the property remained under the control of entities tied to Genting.

What’s being proposed now?
Based on the available information, the property remains linked to Genting. In 2025, filings were also made with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) related to towers between 642 and 645 feet tall—another sign that options for developing the site continue to be explored. The proposal presented by Gómez Platero calls for four staggered towers, with open spaces between the buildings to preserve bay views and encourage natural light and ventilation.

The plan includes about 689 residences, a 300-room hotel, shops, restaurants, a marina, and a public waterfront promenade. It also envisions phased construction, with two towers in the first phase and the other two later.

How viable is the project?
Gómez Platero describes Miami Bay Towers as being in the concept and schematic design phase—an early step in the planning process. That means it still lacks all the required regulatory approvals and does not yet have an official construction timeline.
Not all the key elements needed to deliver a project of this scale—such as final permits or construction financing—have been publicly announced either.

Even so, today’s context is different from years past. The area around the former Miami Herald site has undergone a major transformation and continues to attract real estate investment. And the location along Biscayne Bay—near the Pérez Art Museum Miami, the Adrienne Arsht Center, and several public transit options—keeps the property among the most appealing on the local market.
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Tteffub Nerraw
Haiya, sailormoon dream many.
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Lim Zi Yen
哈哈哈全部人烧到手,来一次Margencall跌到1.00.
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Eddy Khoo
whether approve or disapprove, the taurx decision would be given by Oct or Nov. just two more months the most. Gent price has already been at rock bottom. if you are still holding until now, you can hold for another 1.5-2 months. you may not recover back your rm6-8 entry price but with the approval, gent should recover back to rm4++ due to taurx valuation. if disapprove, well there s no more impact to Gent as Taurx was never in its valuation all this while.
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Lim Zi Yen
赶快丢!快丢啊!股票崩盘。
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Kim Fatt Tham
只有科技股能玩?
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Tteffub Nerraw
TauRX 忘不了,药弄好没? Cheng Cheng? No Pun Intended.
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cheng
Taurx mentioned decision expected by the end of this year and waiting for it. Not in the rush to add since waiting for q3 results by the end of the year.
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Leo
I'm still holding the put, LoL the most steady put I ever hold, don't even look at it until it hit 1.60
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Tteffub Nerraw
Smart move, Leo. No matter what number you start with, when you multiply it by zero, the result is still zero.
No pun intended.
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Tteffub Nerraw
TauRX Cheng, Genting, huh? Hahahhaha, Nice assets. Nobody is arguing that. But the annoying question is ....... if it’s so undervalued, what exactly wakes Mr Market up?

SOTP looks beautiful on Excel, but Excel doesn’t buy shares. Good assets can still become a bad investment if returns stay mediocre and capital keeps getting stuck.

So what’s the catalyst? Better ROIC? Stronger cash flow? Buybacks? Asset monetisation?

Also, for transparency ..... what’s your average entry price on Genting, and how many lots are you holding? Because conviction is always easier to measure when real money is on the table. 😏

Are we buying a hidden gem… or just waiting for tourists who never arrive? 🎰

HAHAHA
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Vin Vin
LKT now is like earn 50 but spent 500.... haha
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cheng
he even brought in the industry veterans for rwlv board, Vin. fainted... Lol, no pun intended. will have to wait how q3 looks like which will give us a sneak preview of earnings visibility during peak season/seasonal high.
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Tteffub Nerraw
TauRx Cheng, how much longer are you going to hold?

From 3.50, you kept saying, “Hold first, hold…TauRX...coming” But now it’s down to 1.80 and you’re still holding?

As an forum guru, didn’t your remisier ever teach you how to cut your losses? 😅must be holding paper loss of many companies... no pun intended too.
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