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Kyory Lau
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Nice oversold. Technical rebound anytime coming week
cheng
My personal opinions for the share price - seems pretty obvious that there were forced selling at the last week of Mar. Have not seen strength since then until now (no action from boss/insiders/funds). I am still waiting for them to take action first.
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Eddy Khoo
yet to revert formally to UK MHRA even after almost 7 months. there could be complications in the data gathering and have exceeded the 6 months time frame.
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Philip Ooi
Genting launches US$1.5b buyback offer for 2027 notes. https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/800581
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cheng
Thanks, Philip. Gent trying to refinance the USD1.5bil notes expiring in Jan'27 - settle old Notes (Jan'27) with new Notes (longer maturity). Extracted the following from the doc - Rationale for the Offer: The Issuer is making the Offer as part of a refinancing exercise. The Offer, together with the concurrent proposed new issue of U.S. dollar denominated securities (“New Issue”), is intended to extend the Guarantor and its subsidiaries’ (the “Group”) debt maturity profile.
Financing Condition: The consummation of the Offer is conditional upon the Group obtaining available funds through the New Issue, which funds are sufficient to pay the portion of the Purchase Consideration and Accrued Interest Payment with respect to all validly tendered Notes to be accepted for purchase by the Issuer.
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cheng
This is the 2nd refinancing news thus far. The first one was the Empire Resorts 300mil bond expiring in Nov'26 and will be refinanced via credit facility by Wells Fargo it seems. Another USD denominated notes to be "refinanced" in 2027 will be ~700mil RWLV term loan expiring in Oct'27. Thereafter, Genting RMTN and Genting Capital MYR denominated notes which is slightly more than 2bil will have to be "refinanced" too.
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cheng
Details of the notes and expiry dates can be retrieved from the 2025 annual reports under notes 36 for borrowings. In summary, 2026 and 2027 expiring notes will be the drag for Gent. Refinancing to a longer maturity date will provide the time for earnings to catch up & debt to come down.
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Philip Ooi
Cheng, is it consider good news?
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Cheng, the publication has gained attention!
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Vin Vin
Maybe is taurx approve soon ?
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Chances super high
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Look at the buying momentum now!
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cheng
Yes it is, Philip. The reason is that it gives time for earnings to catch up with the longer maturity date. And if you can recalled, the rating agencies downgraded Gent due to the debt on hands and in fact, the concern is these debt/notes that are expiring in 2026 and 2027.
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cheng
Are you referring to the publication in the journal, lkk? I saw it has been cited as shared yesterday and it's a good thing. It carries more weight than a paper with 0 citation. We do not know the full list of info requested by UK MHRA but I believed this paper is one of it.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Yes, that’s right Cheng. This publication carries a lot of weight. At current price, nothing is priced in for Taurx.
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cheng
Got it, you are referring to the pricing in of getting the maa from UK MHRA. Just have to wait for the outcome. Not too late to add on post maa, lkk - risk mgmt if you will. In terms of valuations - the last transacted price for TauRx share was USD$125 per share in 2024. It should go higher if maa is granted.
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Man Han
Cheng dont wait lol.. Train start moving.. 上车咯
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cheng
Must be painful for margin buyers that were squeezed out on the last week of Mar. Its showing slight strength today and nearly close at the open price of day 1 forced selling on 24th Mar. The more refinancing or redemption news of the 2026 and 2027 expiring notes, the higher it should go; until earnings of GenS and RWLV showing otherwise.
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cheng
Another hype coming next week - A big week for gamblers is in the cards.

New York City’s first-ever full-fledged casino offering live table games will open next Tuesday — at Resorts World next to the Aqueduct racetrack in Queens.

Queens-bred rapper Nas will attend the ribbon-cutting and ceremonial throw of the first dice after Genting-owned Resorts World was one of three bidders awarded a state license last December to offer live table games.
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Ah Choon Wong
Cheng , next Tuesday, so fast ……hahaha !
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cheng
Never bet against the house as the saying goes, Ah Choon. LKT is the casino tycoon after all. Lol, no pun intended. I was surprised with what I read in the latest annual report for RWNYC; usd500mil license fee paid instead of usd600mil per the bid :) Didnt expect that as the market's expectation was 600mil per the bid document. A good question to ask in AGM by the shareholders will be the tax rate for RWNYC full casino. The bid came with 56% for slots and 30% for table games.
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cheng
As for the opening, original phase 1 plan was 250 live tables and 4000 slots. The rest including hotel, arena, restaurants and other amenities will be in phase 2 by 2030. Not sure how many tables and slots will go live next week.
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Philip Ooi
Cheng, meaning there is additional 100M USD savings gained?
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cheng
It is usd100mil cost saving if what is stated in the annual report is accurate, Philip. Here's the exact statement from the report - In January 2026, GENNY utilised this facility for payment of commercial casino licence fee amounting to USD500.0 million.
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cheng
So, it will be interesting to know the status of RWNYC's request to NY Gaming Commission to lower the tax rate to match the other two license holders or increase their tax rate to match RWNYC's original bid.
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cheng
RWS license renewal in Feb'27 which means this year performance will determine whether its a 2 years or 3 years renewal - mission critical :). RWNYC live games opening next week heading into summer, RWLV summer deal - https://www.rwlasvegas.com/press/resorts-world-las-vegas-debuts-the-strips-first-luxury-inclusive-experience-exclusively-at-conrad/
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Vin Vin
Rebound from 2.20-2.56... not bad
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mrs xlg
vinvin你觉得现在genting怎么样趋势来说
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mrs xlg
下个星期我看可以炒一轮上去突破2.6了过后
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cheng
Indeed, Vin. Hopefully more strength after the new usd1.5bil bond issuance by gohl. checked the details in HKEX earlier and its not available yet.
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cheng
there you go :) speaking of the devil.
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Vin Vin
xlg..云顶坏消息都几年了。。。应该是时候醒一醒了
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sun Sun
对!买了放3个月,你会看到股价最少3.0以上,或者4块
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Kyory Lau
Ok. More than 10% return achieve for technical rebound
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Kyory Lau
Hurdle seem when above RM2.80
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Vin Vin
lucky stay Above 10b market cap again
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Kyory Lau
This round rebound take 4 weeks.. exceed my expectation normally 2 to 3 weeks. Swing tradera will better than day traders
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cheng
Insiders made a move yesterday before market closing followed by the announcement of the new bonds :)
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cheng
I would expect more insiders to make their moves as they digest the details of the new bonds :)
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cheng
boss raised the bet, bankers called. fuhh... never underestimate the boss. he maybe hated due to underperforming share price but he definitely has something up his sleeve/deep toolkit
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Eddy Khoo
don't forget that the GENT was at rm5 back in early 2024 b4 all the controversies news and management decision to acquire Empire fully.
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Eddy Khoo
most of the negatives have been addressed such as penalty by the Las Vegas Authority and also winning the court case with its Bahmas partner and successfully obtained the NY license. instead of rebound, it cont to dive down until 2.20 price which is around the margin call price.
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Eddy Khoo
not forgetting the boss delivered two year end losses in Dec 2024 and Dec 2025 to depress the price further. Have the insiders done with their plans?
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cheng
insiders made a move yesterday and continued today. I would expect funds to follow suit as they digest the announcement :) Well, at least funds that are optimistic with Genting will make a move after the announcement yesterday
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cheng
They move, I move :) I am back as a small shareholder
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Vin Vin
2.76 strong resistance.... hope can break it ... and hope got good news announce soon ...since this week up alot
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mrs xlg
confirm can no worries
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cheng
The good news is the bonds issuance, Vin :) Old notes expiring in Jan 2027 will be replaced with the new bonds. And this new bond is where LKT raised the bet and bankers called. It is perpetual and non call :p Perpetual here meaning no expiry date and non call here means Genting cannot redeem until the agreed date.
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cheng
The term details are in the announcement yesterday
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cheng
another hype next week upon confirmation of phase 1 opening of RWNYC table games and additional slots
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Vin Vin
Cheng , hope got other news to boost up the share price...genm privatise or taurx .. if not.. next week price probably will correction again
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cheng
correction probably not, Vin :) Profit taking is possible. Privatise GenM to make way for "GentUS" listing in the future will be the best one as IPO proceeds can be used to pare down the debt significantly :) Boost the share price directly.
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Kyory Lau
Profit taking near or above RM2.80 1st ba... still US stocks better return.. bought Broadcom on 26 March at US313 then drop below US300 but now US420 within a month..
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Vin Vin
Unbelievable...from 2.20 shoot up to 2.75 within 2 weeks ...
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Kyory Lau
Go for US still world largest financial market..
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cheng
Genting raised to outperform from market perform by CreditSights after the details of new bonds issuance published by Gent, Vin :) Refinancing is no longer a concern if you will. I would expect funds that are optimistic with Gent will continue to load up. The next 3 qtrs earnings will determine whether Gent will continue to climb or stay low - (1) GenS performance will determine whether its a 2 years or 3 years license renewal in Feb'27 and whether The Laurus can bring back the VIPs (2) Sneak preview of phase 1 performance of RWNYC in Q2 and followed by full qtr contribution in Q3 (3) Summer deals for RWLV - Q3 performance that will be published by end of the year will provide better clarity of RWLV recovery potential.
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cheng
Indeed, Kyory :) Keep it up and manage it well.
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Kyory Lau
Ya, like us busy on work can't really monitor the market. So only can do swing trades which may held for few weeks to months. Need some patient but better and won't jitters as day traders.
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Vin Vin
thanks for the great info ! Cheng ! happy weekend!
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cheng
you can consider ETFs too for US market, Kyory
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cheng
You are welcome, Vin :) enjoy your weekend too
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Kyory Lau
Yes Cheng. I got use ETF too SPY or QQQ.. however, I still will pick some high growth stocks like Broadcom
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cheng
you can keep soxx in your list too for semiconductor. and IGV for software :)
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Kyory Lau
Hahaa... not go into so specific ETF. I put focus on few stocks only with supports of SPY and QQQ.
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cheng
ooh ok. maybe you should consider to build a watchlist of ETFs if you are active in the US market :) Use it to provide a sense of direction where the market is heading and whether its risk off or risk on mode :)
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cheng
LKT raised the bet, bankers called, Mr. Market acted accordingly and now, analysts rerated :) Analysts have revised the stock price targets upwards for Gent :) It was median of 3.44 before this and latest revision showing median of 4.42 with low of 3.54. Not surprising as refinancing/credit risk eases, the details of the new perpetual non call notes may potentially resulted in leverage improvement due to - old notes usd1.5bil will be deducted from the total liabilities, usd0.25bil cash deducted and usd1.25bil added to equity. It buys time for Gent to focus on RWS2.0 expansion and recovery, RWLV and RWNYC.
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cheng
28th Apr opening of phase 1 RWNYC live table games upon final approval from NY gaming commission. A head start for Gent as the Steve Cohen and Bally's casino anticipated to complete in 2030. And, RWNYC is the only casino in NYC to offer live table games. The nearest live table games casino beyond RWNYC in NYC will be in Atlantic City or Connecticut; slightly more than 2hrs away.
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Kyory Lau
Hope is minor profit taking after above RM2.80 as indicate last week especially RSI above 75. If not too strong profit taking next test is Rm3 and above
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cheng
its normal to see profit taking, kyory. It will be more interesting to see the numbers for RWNYC in Q2 and Q3 this year with the phase 1 opening scheduled tomorrow. Imagine local gamblers, high rollers, international visitors staying/visiting NYC had nowhere to play in the city. They will have to travel to Atlantic City / Connecticut to play.
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Vin Vin
Bearish shooting star ... definitely tmr another drop ..
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mrs xlg
到时在进入klci 我看最少真的3.5以上不是玩玩的 现在below 3 都可以继续扫!!
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Eddy Khoo
here come the panic profit taking pattern as usual.
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Vin Vin
Ppl who bought below 2.30... can achieve 20% within 2 weeks ...why not ? sell and wait or switch other counter
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Eddy Khoo
the sales volume below 2.75 were low. it would be quickly bounced by 445PM.
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cheng
Agreed with Vin. And they will be looking to buy back on pullback near 2.50
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Shirley Shirley
Vin, how much is your average price?
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Vin Vin
Shirley...me and kc is the older shareholders.... regarding the average price ...hmmm.... heart will pain when mentioned about it .. :-(
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cheng
Hopefully not too high, Vin. Must be stressful.
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cheng
a peep into the RWNYC table games that will go live later - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXj9JLXjX6R/
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Vin Vin
yesterday already saw shooting star...not surprise to see the price plunge...unless got hammered support
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cheng
planning to add some if there are quotes near 2.50. else, will just wait until the qr is out for the next 3 safe months.
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Jackie Tan
cheng finance cost 会在接下来的季报因为perpetual而减少从而提高p&l
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cheng
most likely, jackie. i saw the term details and particularly the distribution deferral - The Issuer may defer distributions at its sole discretion, Deferred distributions will be cumulative and there is no limit to number of deferrals, The Issuer must defer distributions during certain events as set out in the conditions of the Securities. Hence, high chance that usd1.25bil will be added to the equity, usd1.5bil removed from liabilities, and usd0.25bil cash deducted. It buys time for GenS, RWLV and RWNYC. Leverage will improve a bit but this will still need to be addressed in the long term for it to go way higher - improved earnings/cash flow to pare down debt over time, to list "GenUS" and use the proceeds to pare down the debt and etc.
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Jackie Tan
cheng 这个是equity来的 可以去看malakoff财报参考
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cheng
alright, jackie. will have a look at it.
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cheng
saw the line item in the malakoff's qr report. searched it and found the details in Malakoff AR 2017. Here are the details: On 15 March 2017, Tanjung Bin Energy Sdn. Bhd. (“TBE”), a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Company, issued unrated perpetual sukuk of RM800 million in nominal value in accordance with Shariah principle of Wakalah Bi Al-Istithmar (“Sukuk Wakalah”) with an unconditional and irrevocable subordinated cash deficiency support from the Company. Details of the Sukuk Wakalah are as follows:
a) The perpetual sukuk has no fixed redemption date and the Company has an option to redeem all or part of the
perpetual sukuk at the end of the seventh year from date of issuance and thereafter on each subsequent periodic
distribution date;
b) The perpetual sukuk is unsecured and carries a periodic distribution rate of 5.9% per annum, payable semi-annually
from year 1 to year 7. Thereon, the period distribution rate shall be 1% above the prevailing periodic distribution rate;
c) The Company has the right to defer the payment of the periodic distribution amount by giving the required deferral
notice. Deferred periodic distribution, if any, will be cumulative but will not earn additional profits thus there will be no
compounding effect; and
d) The holder of perpetual sukuk shall have no voting rights at any general meeting of the shareholders of TBE
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cheng
the details showing its no fixed redemption date which means no due date/expiry which is perpetual. Option to redeem all or part at the end of 7th year - fits the definition of non-call. last but not least, has the right to defer the payment of distribution - which is deferral. All the criteria fits into equity instead of liabilities.
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cheng
interesting interview on site. Rob's message at 2.30 - most favored nation clause! :) What it literally means is that RWNYC will pay the same tax rates as the other two casinos in the future; when they are up and running in 2030. Not aware of that as it was never published or mentioned before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA2FuxCVJfo
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Vin Vin
Thx for the info.. Cheng ! but today both genting seem like no surprise at all.. going to break 10b market soon
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cheng
you are welcome, Vin. Just need to manage our own positions well will do in my personal opinion. 3 main drivers to be considered and monitored - (1) refinancing for notes maturing in 2027 - progressing well and refinancing risk eases (2) eps/ebitda - need to show eps/ebitda improvement mainly driven by GenS, RWLV and RWNYC (3) leverage - Gent has to pare down the debt / deleverage over time.
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Jackie Tan
cheng看shareholder equity那部分就可以知道了 接下来等老板表演
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cheng
Yes it is, jackie. Leverage will be reduced too as usd1.5bil removed from liabilities. Performance of GenS, RWLV and RWNYC in the near future will be key to higher rerating.
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Eddy Khoo
so quiet on the NY casino opening. no press statement or announcement at all.
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cheng
Agreed, Eddy. I have to get the updates from foreign news/media. Boss was there at the opening ceremony. Genting's media / public affairs team couldn't be bothered to provide updates?
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Business was so good. Fully pack even on a weekdays 2am in the casino.
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cheng
Another source to follow for RWNYC, Catskills, Hudson Valley is from NY gaming commission revenue reports - https://gaming.ny.gov/revenue-reports
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Eddy Khoo
possible censor by top management as not to attract much attention. The plan to privatize GenM with low valuation still stand. 1 more month to go before the restriction of the 6 months period is lifted for privatization offer again.
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cheng
Boss may take his own sweet time given the pressure for 2027 expiring notes eases.
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Vin Vin
Hope faster privatise genm...only GENT will start move ... currently oil keep shooting up...hope FLNG will bring more profit to gent ...
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cheng
It will be tough to use hopes on the mgmt from my personal opinions, Vin. I am using publicly available information to manage the expectation for my current position in Gent. (1) the new 1.25bil notes has a distribution of fixed 8.3% (series 2) per year interest. My expectation to hold Gent's stock is min 10% capital gain / yr (2) Rating agencies downgraded Gent mainly bcos of leverage - high debt/ebitda. My expectation here is ebitda to keep improving/growing moving forward - GenS, RWLV & RWNYC
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cheng
Makes no sense to hold Gent stock if Gent cannot deliver these 2 expectations. It's better to opt for the notes if you will. Just my personal criteria / decision making process.
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