Kyory Lau's comment on GENTING. All Comments

Kyory Lau
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Nice oversold. Technical rebound anytime coming week
cheng
The term details are in the announcement yesterday
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cheng
another hype next week upon confirmation of phase 1 opening of RWNYC table games and additional slots
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Vin Vin
Cheng , hope got other news to boost up the share price...genm privatise or taurx .. if not.. next week price probably will correction again
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cheng
correction probably not, Vin :) Profit taking is possible. Privatise GenM to make way for "GentUS" listing in the future will be the best one as IPO proceeds can be used to pare down the debt significantly :) Boost the share price directly.
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Kyory Lau
Profit taking near or above RM2.80 1st ba... still US stocks better return.. bought Broadcom on 26 March at US313 then drop below US300 but now US420 within a month..
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Vin Vin
Unbelievable...from 2.20 shoot up to 2.75 within 2 weeks ...
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Kyory Lau
Go for US still world largest financial market..
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cheng
Genting raised to outperform from market perform by CreditSights after the details of new bonds issuance published by Gent, Vin :) Refinancing is no longer a concern if you will. I would expect funds that are optimistic with Gent will continue to load up. The next 3 qtrs earnings will determine whether Gent will continue to climb or stay low - (1) GenS performance will determine whether its a 2 years or 3 years license renewal in Feb'27 and whether The Laurus can bring back the VIPs (2) Sneak preview of phase 1 performance of RWNYC in Q2 and followed by full qtr contribution in Q3 (3) Summer deals for RWLV - Q3 performance that will be published by end of the year will provide better clarity of RWLV recovery potential.
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cheng
Indeed, Kyory :) Keep it up and manage it well.
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Kyory Lau
Ya, like us busy on work can't really monitor the market. So only can do swing trades which may held for few weeks to months. Need some patient but better and won't jitters as day traders.
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Vin Vin
thanks for the great info ! Cheng ! happy weekend!
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cheng
you can consider ETFs too for US market, Kyory
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cheng
You are welcome, Vin :) enjoy your weekend too
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Kyory Lau
Yes Cheng. I got use ETF too SPY or QQQ.. however, I still will pick some high growth stocks like Broadcom
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cheng
you can keep soxx in your list too for semiconductor. and IGV for software :)
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Kyory Lau
Hahaa... not go into so specific ETF. I put focus on few stocks only with supports of SPY and QQQ.
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cheng
ooh ok. maybe you should consider to build a watchlist of ETFs if you are active in the US market :) Use it to provide a sense of direction where the market is heading and whether its risk off or risk on mode :)
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cheng
LKT raised the bet, bankers called, Mr. Market acted accordingly and now, analysts rerated :) Analysts have revised the stock price targets upwards for Gent :) It was median of 3.44 before this and latest revision showing median of 4.42 with low of 3.54. Not surprising as refinancing/credit risk eases, the details of the new perpetual non call notes may potentially resulted in leverage improvement due to - old notes usd1.5bil will be deducted from the total liabilities, usd0.25bil cash deducted and usd1.25bil added to equity. It buys time for Gent to focus on RWS2.0 expansion and recovery, RWLV and RWNYC.
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cheng
28th Apr opening of phase 1 RWNYC live table games upon final approval from NY gaming commission. A head start for Gent as the Steve Cohen and Bally's casino anticipated to complete in 2030. And, RWNYC is the only casino in NYC to offer live table games. The nearest live table games casino beyond RWNYC in NYC will be in Atlantic City or Connecticut; slightly more than 2hrs away.
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Kyory Lau
Hope is minor profit taking after above RM2.80 as indicate last week especially RSI above 75. If not too strong profit taking next test is Rm3 and above
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cheng
its normal to see profit taking, kyory. It will be more interesting to see the numbers for RWNYC in Q2 and Q3 this year with the phase 1 opening scheduled tomorrow. Imagine local gamblers, high rollers, international visitors staying/visiting NYC had nowhere to play in the city. They will have to travel to Atlantic City / Connecticut to play.
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Vin Vin
Bearish shooting star ... definitely tmr another drop ..
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mrs xlg
到时在进入klci 我看最少真的3.5以上不是玩玩的 现在below 3 都可以继续扫!!
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Eddy Khoo
here come the panic profit taking pattern as usual.
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Vin Vin
Ppl who bought below 2.30... can achieve 20% within 2 weeks ...why not ? sell and wait or switch other counter
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Eddy Khoo
the sales volume below 2.75 were low. it would be quickly bounced by 445PM.
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cheng
Agreed with Vin. And they will be looking to buy back on pullback near 2.50
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Shirley Shirley
Vin, how much is your average price?
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Vin Vin
Shirley...me and kc is the older shareholders.... regarding the average price ...hmmm.... heart will pain when mentioned about it .. :-(
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cheng
Hopefully not too high, Vin. Must be stressful.
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cheng
a peep into the RWNYC table games that will go live later - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXj9JLXjX6R/
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Vin Vin
yesterday already saw shooting star...not surprise to see the price plunge...unless got hammered support
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cheng
planning to add some if there are quotes near 2.50. else, will just wait until the qr is out for the next 3 safe months.
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Jackie Tan
cheng finance cost 会在接下来的季报因为perpetual而减少从而提高p&l
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cheng
most likely, jackie. i saw the term details and particularly the distribution deferral - The Issuer may defer distributions at its sole discretion, Deferred distributions will be cumulative and there is no limit to number of deferrals, The Issuer must defer distributions during certain events as set out in the conditions of the Securities. Hence, high chance that usd1.25bil will be added to the equity, usd1.5bil removed from liabilities, and usd0.25bil cash deducted. It buys time for GenS, RWLV and RWNYC. Leverage will improve a bit but this will still need to be addressed in the long term for it to go way higher - improved earnings/cash flow to pare down debt over time, to list "GenUS" and use the proceeds to pare down the debt and etc.
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Jackie Tan
cheng 这个是equity来的 可以去看malakoff财报参考
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cheng
alright, jackie. will have a look at it.
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cheng
saw the line item in the malakoff's qr report. searched it and found the details in Malakoff AR 2017. Here are the details: On 15 March 2017, Tanjung Bin Energy Sdn. Bhd. (“TBE”), a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Company, issued unrated perpetual sukuk of RM800 million in nominal value in accordance with Shariah principle of Wakalah Bi Al-Istithmar (“Sukuk Wakalah”) with an unconditional and irrevocable subordinated cash deficiency support from the Company. Details of the Sukuk Wakalah are as follows:
a) The perpetual sukuk has no fixed redemption date and the Company has an option to redeem all or part of the
perpetual sukuk at the end of the seventh year from date of issuance and thereafter on each subsequent periodic
distribution date;
b) The perpetual sukuk is unsecured and carries a periodic distribution rate of 5.9% per annum, payable semi-annually
from year 1 to year 7. Thereon, the period distribution rate shall be 1% above the prevailing periodic distribution rate;
c) The Company has the right to defer the payment of the periodic distribution amount by giving the required deferral
notice. Deferred periodic distribution, if any, will be cumulative but will not earn additional profits thus there will be no
compounding effect; and
d) The holder of perpetual sukuk shall have no voting rights at any general meeting of the shareholders of TBE
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cheng
the details showing its no fixed redemption date which means no due date/expiry which is perpetual. Option to redeem all or part at the end of 7th year - fits the definition of non-call. last but not least, has the right to defer the payment of distribution - which is deferral. All the criteria fits into equity instead of liabilities.
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cheng
interesting interview on site. Rob's message at 2.30 - most favored nation clause! :) What it literally means is that RWNYC will pay the same tax rates as the other two casinos in the future; when they are up and running in 2030. Not aware of that as it was never published or mentioned before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA2FuxCVJfo
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Vin Vin
Thx for the info.. Cheng ! but today both genting seem like no surprise at all.. going to break 10b market soon
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cheng
you are welcome, Vin. Just need to manage our own positions well will do in my personal opinion. 3 main drivers to be considered and monitored - (1) refinancing for notes maturing in 2027 - progressing well and refinancing risk eases (2) eps/ebitda - need to show eps/ebitda improvement mainly driven by GenS, RWLV and RWNYC (3) leverage - Gent has to pare down the debt / deleverage over time.
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Jackie Tan
cheng看shareholder equity那部分就可以知道了 接下来等老板表演
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cheng
Yes it is, jackie. Leverage will be reduced too as usd1.5bil removed from liabilities. Performance of GenS, RWLV and RWNYC in the near future will be key to higher rerating.
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Eddy Khoo
so quiet on the NY casino opening. no press statement or announcement at all.
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cheng
Agreed, Eddy. I have to get the updates from foreign news/media. Boss was there at the opening ceremony. Genting's media / public affairs team couldn't be bothered to provide updates?
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Business was so good. Fully pack even on a weekdays 2am in the casino.
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cheng
Another source to follow for RWNYC, Catskills, Hudson Valley is from NY gaming commission revenue reports - https://gaming.ny.gov/revenue-reports
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Eddy Khoo
possible censor by top management as not to attract much attention. The plan to privatize GenM with low valuation still stand. 1 more month to go before the restriction of the 6 months period is lifted for privatization offer again.
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cheng
Boss may take his own sweet time given the pressure for 2027 expiring notes eases.
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Vin Vin
Hope faster privatise genm...only GENT will start move ... currently oil keep shooting up...hope FLNG will bring more profit to gent ...
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cheng
It will be tough to use hopes on the mgmt from my personal opinions, Vin. I am using publicly available information to manage the expectation for my current position in Gent. (1) the new 1.25bil notes has a distribution of fixed 8.3% (series 2) per year interest. My expectation to hold Gent's stock is min 10% capital gain / yr (2) Rating agencies downgraded Gent mainly bcos of leverage - high debt/ebitda. My expectation here is ebitda to keep improving/growing moving forward - GenS, RWLV & RWNYC
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cheng
Makes no sense to hold Gent stock if Gent cannot deliver these 2 expectations. It's better to opt for the notes if you will. Just my personal criteria / decision making process.
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Eddy Khoo
after 3 days and closing of trading, today they published the Resort NY casino opening news. Calculated move?
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cheng
its alright, Eddy. After all, we can still get updates from foreign news/media. All we need to do is just monitor the performance. For RWS, 2026 performance will be critical towards Feb'27 license renewal. Most of the phase 1 intended renovations and disruptions have been completed with The Laurus being the last one end of last year. Realistically, RWS contribution to Gent group from ebitda perspective should at least be above rm800mil per qtr. As for RWNYC, Fitch estimated ebitda usd215mil contribution in 2026 which means rm200mil per qtr. So, Gent's US & Bahamas segment ebitda should at least contribute rm300mil per qtr in Q3'26; full qtr contribution of phase 1 RWNYC and RWLV summer promotion. RWLV q4'25 ebitda is ~ 60mil. Just my own expectations and could be wrong.
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Philip Ooi
Cheng, how do you see the response on the GOHL tender offer? Less than 0.9B
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cheng
It's impossible to derive a conclusion from our end, Philip. The reason is we do not know who are the institutional/investors for the 1.5bil notes and they may have their own reason to keep receiving the distribution until Jan'27. From Gent perspective, the balance usd617.5 mil in the doc will have to be redeemed by Jan'27. And usd1.25 bil notes has been listed SGX which means there will be a net cash movement for Gent of usd300+ mil (1.25bil - 882mil).
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cheng
Gent will have to fund the balance (617mil - 300+ mil) to fully redeem it by jan'27. Can be funded by dividend income from gens/genm, existing cash balance, interest income or even the additional income from rwnyc. I do not see any risk coming from the notes expiring in jan'27
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Jackie Tan
无需太过在意gohl tender 那个不是重点 重点是云顶向投行证明了他们的国家级融资能力 那么大型的perpetual发行成功是市场对云顶的绝对信心也是破纪录马来西亚民营企业在国际市场上最大规模的单次永续债发行之一
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Marina Bay Sands (MBS) charted another new high for the first quarter, with earnings climbing 30.2 per cent to US$788 million – or S$1 billion – for the three months ended Mar 31.

Its adjusted property earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortisation (Ebitda) was US$605 million in the corresponding year-ago period. This came as net revenue picked up 27.9 per cent year on year to US$1.5 billion, from US$1.2 billion previously.

Gaming business is doing very well in Singapore.
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Paul Paul
but Gent Spore not doing well since Covid, what a shame
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cheng
Gaming segment lost badly to MBS. This year performance will be critical for GenS - (1) for Feb'27 license renewal (2) Phase 1 disruptions and renovations have been completed with the Laurus being the last one end of last year. Will be interesting to see whether the gaming performance will show qoq & yoy improvement.
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Vin Vin
Shooting star again ? macd overbought... maybe need to wait few more days ... macd overcross... only will up again ?
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cheng
lets wait for the qr at the end of this month, Vin. Looking forward to it.
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mrs xlg
u think boom or surprise?
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cheng
Doesnt matter boom or surprise for me, mrs xlg. I am looking for min 800mil qtrly ebitda for gens, 300 mil qtrly ebitda for US & Bahamas.
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Vin Vin
Cheng last Q...gens only got 174m sgd EBITDA... as you predicted..800m EBITDA convert to sgd around 258m sgd for Q1 ? if yes. ..consider very good news :-)
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cheng
its my own expectation for GenS, Vin :) I am not sure whether they can achieve it or not. If Gent can achieve it, I will add position.
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Vin Vin
hope so...gens long time didn't achieve 250m EBITDA above
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cheng
That's right, Vin. I take it as the disruptions in phase 1 causes lower footfall traffic instead of changing consumer behaviors. Non-gaming segment is good while gaming segment is not good. MBS previous results were strong showing demand for gaming is strong. q4'25 MBS results is almost equivalent to full fiscal year performance of GenS in 2025. That's how strong the demand is.
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cheng
will be interesting to see whether The Laurus will be able to bring back the VIPs.
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Jackie Tan
cheng laurus 不是问题 问题是他们怎样积极抢客源 MBS在抢客源很积极 rws在积极扩展non gaming 你可以看到non gaming在成长很好反而gaming缺下降 管理层是不是走错方向应该把重新放在怎样利用non gaming吸引gaming 需求 而不是一味要提升访客量和non gaming 在那边自己嗨 mbs ebitda margin已经来到 50%了 说明rws不够积极
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Jackie Tan
市场需求都在那边了看谁比较积极去捡钱
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cheng
luxury all-suite hotel with low occupancy rate is a failure. it will be a wrong direction if The Laurus fails to bring back the VIPs, jackie. I dont think that is the case until the data shows otherwise :) For now, the hotel occupancy rate in Singapore is above 80% in Q1'26. Feb is pretty high at 88%. Jul and Aug is always the peak for Singapore's tourism. I am following the tourism statistics from the following link https://stan.stb.gov.sg/content/stan/en/tourism-statistics.html
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Jackie Tan
对 cheng 这种赌场度假村的模式是靠送房间来争取vip客 occupacy low 证明他们不够积极送房间 如果你有接触过这些vip 你就知道他们是看谁给的优惠多 mbs很舍得送房间他们房间大部分都给赌客 如果 rws 把房间预留给non gaming客户就是方向错误了 所以你会看到non gaming进步 gaming在退步
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cheng
understood, jackie. I am in the opinion that discount is not what the VIPs are looking for. Its the VIP experience and services instead :)
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Jackie Tan
服务和体验很重要 如果同时间mbs送房间和你没房间送 这种体验就不是很好了 . 如果去玩那么大还要自己掏钱住大多数宁愿选择mbs 房间库存预留很重要 论地点距离RWS已经输了
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cheng
its true that location makes a difference, jackie. I am just wondering the traffic footfall contributed to the RWS non-gaming segment but not the gaming segment. And it cannot be consumer behavior shifts as MBS gaming segment is doing really well. nevertheless, it will be interesting to see whether The Laurus will be able to entice the VIPs over.
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cheng
Good thing that the union is against the New York online gaming proposal and the governor's body language is a no too. https://www.casinoreports.com/addabbo-not-optimistic-new-york-igaming/
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Jackie Tan
cheng 我怀疑管理层方向错误 导致有这样结果希望新的管理层可以带回去正轨 需要增加多点vip房间 现在mbs和rws的房间库存不上上下 可是rws大部分都要预留给non gaming访客反而mbs有更多空间提供给gaming访客
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cheng
The Laurus is targeting VIPs in my opinion, jackie. The room rate per night ranging from sgd800 per night to sgd6k per night. Lets see whether GenS will be able to deliver this year. Q1 and Q3 results will be good enough to determine whether its on the right track or off track :)
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Kim Fatt Tham
Festive season and holidays will boost their results in q1
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cheng
RWS, RWLV and RWNYC performance will be key for positive rerating, kim fatt tham
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Vin Vin
index break new high soon ..gent still 2.58...bravo !
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cheng
I can understand that, Vin. Gent has to show the results from RWS, RWLV and RWNYC. Ebitda has to show improving trend and cap the debt at the same time; debt/leverage will improve over time if you will. Just my own expectations for Gent in FY26
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Ju Jing Yi
rhb is the best
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Vin Vin
my friend cut loss gent and bought gamuda 3.88 ... now he can smile while sleep....
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cheng
is your avg price above 4 or below 4, Vin?
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Eddy Khoo
gent is already out of index. non of genting biz.
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Vin Vin
Cheng , after I average below 4 ady... and will sell half if hit 4
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cheng
Alright. Sounds like a good plan. Let's keep an eye on the qtrly performance this year.
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Vin Vin
can't wait to see gens qe...hope as you said ..250m....sgd EBITDA
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cheng
RWS was doing well before Hard Rock hotel was taken down to make way for The Laurus. Wavefront development progressing and scheduled to be released by 2030. Let's not forget there were some mgmt changes in 2024 and 2025 too. So, we need to see some results in 2026 to be convinced it's on the right track
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cheng
Their Chief casino officer resigned end of 2024 and Chen Si came on board in Dec'25 as COO. His role is also covering the casino/gaming segment. Let's see how he is doing - may need 6 to 9 months. Q3 results will be a good measurement for the new mgmt.
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cheng
RWLV saw major shake-up on their leadership; due to the Aug'24 AML charges. Negligible improvement on its ebitda as of last qr. Would like to see it going above 100mil qtrly ebitda this year; experienced folks from the industry after all.
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cheng
As for HMTM - should post the question in the AGM for updates. Now, assuming TauRx has provided all the information requested by UK MHRA, then, we should pay attention to the following dates - May: 21-22; June: 25-26; July:30-31. These are the meeting schedule where UK MHRA will discuss / review all the relevant matters including maa. May not be in the agenda on these dates if TauRx has yet to complete the request for information.
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Shirley Shirley
Vin Vin大神,请问你的ave price 多少了?
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Vin Vin
Shirley 差不多3.80了。。。跌倒那么跌。。。没average 会对不起我阿嘛。。 如果Q2再分股息。。。我不打算卖了。。。收多几年看看。。。
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K S
vin vin, 你买很多吗?是在3.8买的,还是更高,之前average Down?
我也是3.8左右,过后有average down, 现在3.0左右! 亏死我!和资金被套
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Vin Vin
我从4块多慢慢拉低的。。。收了满多股息。。。希望大家可以脱离福海
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