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Kyory Lau
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Nice oversold. Technical rebound anytime coming week
cheng
revenue in q4'25 fell compared to q3'25 for all leisure and hospitality segment except RWLV, Vin. US assets were the usual culprit when it comes to ebitda margin. GenM's US assets - margin contraction despite revenue growth for 2nd half of 2025 compared to 1st half while RWLV - both the revenue and margin contracted for 2nd half of 2025. GenS and MY assets ebitda margin were still at 30% and above range throughout 2025; thats the minimum standard for me personally and anything below is not good. US assets are far off from 30% (single digit to below 20% range) despite huge amount of invested capital.
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Jegan Dorairaj
always tis lady direct to. wrong pathway
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Jackie Tan
cheng 观察力很好 ebitda margin的确低 rwlv 3billion revenue 才拿到239m ebitda ebitda margin 是少过10% 排除掉rwlv 整体u.s segment ebitda margin会是18% 以上 之前合规案害到rwlv很难经营VIP 这个算是管理层的失策没做好Due diligence请到有问题的ceo 在这之前2023 4billion revenue 800m ebitda ebitda margin是20%以上
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cheng
been tracking the details for some time, jackie :) hence, my baseline is min 30% ebitda margins for high capex assets. anything less than 30% is bad; poor returns and capital misallocations.
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cheng
Mar's performance for GenM's US assets (RWNYC, Catskills and Hudson Valley) were better compared to Jan and Feb. Resorts World Bet data is no longer updated by the gaming commission as it has been closed mid of last year; could not penetrate the market it seems as it is one of the lowest contributor in NY sports betting market. less than 100 mil contribution in a 20 bil sports betting market. https://gaming.ny.gov/revenue-reports
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Vin Vin
Sir Cheng look at genm latest news .. after sbb .. gent own 78.30%
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cheng
where's the news, Vin?
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Philip Ooi
Vin, that was assuming fully sbb. Currently still 73.86% right.
Cheng, may refer Genm Proposed sbb notice
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cheng
Phillip is right, Vin. It's the usual proposal in the AGM.
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boy boy
Cheng mind to ask So, will this SBB deal help Gent's acquisition of Genm?
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cheng
It's been a while since GenM carried out share buyback, boy2. What I meant here is actual share buyback and not just approval for share buyback. Gent's percentage of shareholding will increase in this case bcos share buyback is basically reducing the total free float shares; parked as treasury shares if you will.
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Vin Vin
Cheng , what I know once Gent own above 75% ...need to suspend and delist right??
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cheng
In general, GenM will have to announce that it is not meeting 25% public shareholding spread requirement; non-compliant if you will, Vin. And if Gent intends to delist GenM, EGM will be called to vote for the delisting - The proportion of shareholders or holders objecting to the delisting must not be more than 10%. Exit offer for the shareholders will be tabled in the meeting too. Additionally, Bursa may also consider lower public shareholding spread in some cases; depending on the liquidity.
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Jegan Dorairaj
they don't care the top mgt KEEP on bag big big salary in use in millions
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Vin Vin
hope during AGM will call for delist genm...if not gent hard to move up
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cheng
Indeed, Vin. And list US assets separately. If not, they have to scale down the investment in US - sell poor performing US assets. Starting with Bahamas and followed by Catskills and Hudson Valley.
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Vin Vin
I will attend their AGM on this coming June..
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cheng
Alright. Will be good to ask the Kasuri block onshore facility readiness for gas extraction and transportation to the offshore FLNG docking point - how many percent and timeline for completion. The offshore FLNG construction is at 70% as I read it from O&G online news and will be delivered by Q1'27. The leisure and hospitality part will probably be asked by others. As for TauRx, can press the mgmt for more transparency especially on whether has TauRx responded to all the questions from UK MHRA.
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Jackie Tan
cheng 美国市场会是下一个重要引擎 他们不能卖卖了他们在美国就没优势了 赌场是靠reward
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cheng
the results over the years speak volumes about the performance of each US assets, jackie. No doubt its the biggest market, however it is also crowded. High competition, stable but low growth market. Resorts World Bet is a good example - 20 bil sports betting market in NY, and RWBet contribution is less than 100mil. Las Vegas Sands exited US market entirely to focus in Macau and Singapore; they are doing really well if you will. RWNYC, Catskills and Hudson Valley are pretty close to each other too. Additionally, there is also the growing push for online gaming and NY online gaming legislation is underway.
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Man Han
Me too... I will attend agm this year!!!!
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Man Han
I want to fucking ask why your share can drop from 2.90 to 2.38 in 1 month time!!! Can all director salary and allowance freeze until price going up to 2.90!
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cheng
Insiders lari kuat2 due to performance bomb in previous qtr, followed by war which dragged down the overall sentiments and squeezed out margin holders the last 2 weeks of Mar.
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cheng
lets see whether the prospect of potentially included into KLCI50 will be attractive for insiders/funds. You can expect index funds to be active for sure.
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John Liew
Blame Iran war lo
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cheng
If Gent wants to secure a spot in top 50, it needs to start moving up and increase the market cap to above 11bil.
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Eddy Khoo
that would be around rm3
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cheng
that's right, Eddy.
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Ah tai Sukoyi
Ah tai want SBB all .. then private ?
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cheng
not much changes in terms of total shareholdings held by the top 30 for Gent in AR2025. Some exited some joined some increased and some reduced. two big funds exited with more than 20 mil each but interestingly, two individual popped up in the top 30. One with 27.6 mil shares and the other with 7.7 mil shares. Rare to see individual names popped up in top30 for Gent.
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Vin Vin
Sir Cheng possible will approve soon ? The article make my eyes blurry... and share price too :+(
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cheng
TauRx did not publish the complete list of request from UK MHRA and that makes it difficult to anticipate, Vin. But I believed this paper is the key action item given the complication for the primary endpoint in the previous clinical trial results. And I noticed there are citation count to the paper which is good; meaning reviewed and cited by others. TauRx seems to be confident and plans in place if they were to receive maa - Should the company receive marketing authorisation, TauRx’s ambition is to launch its potentially transformative treatment for dementia from the north-east, which would make it the first independent biotech company in Scotland to launch a major drug treatment across the UK. https://taurx.com/news/industry-news/thriving-life-sciences-sector-under-the-microscope-as-taurx-bosses-meet-scotlands-first-minister
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Vin Vin
hope everything go smooth..
thx alot Cheng !
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cheng
My personal opinions for the share price - seems pretty obvious that there were forced selling at the last week of Mar. Have not seen strength since then until now (no action from boss/insiders/funds). I am still waiting for them to take action first.
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Eddy Khoo
yet to revert formally to UK MHRA even after almost 7 months. there could be complications in the data gathering and have exceeded the 6 months time frame.
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Philip Ooi
Genting launches US$1.5b buyback offer for 2027 notes. https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/800581
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cheng
Thanks, Philip. Gent trying to refinance the USD1.5bil notes expiring in Jan'27 - settle old Notes (Jan'27) with new Notes (longer maturity). Extracted the following from the doc - Rationale for the Offer: The Issuer is making the Offer as part of a refinancing exercise. The Offer, together with the concurrent proposed new issue of U.S. dollar denominated securities (“New Issue”), is intended to extend the Guarantor and its subsidiaries’ (the “Group”) debt maturity profile.
Financing Condition: The consummation of the Offer is conditional upon the Group obtaining available funds through the New Issue, which funds are sufficient to pay the portion of the Purchase Consideration and Accrued Interest Payment with respect to all validly tendered Notes to be accepted for purchase by the Issuer.
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cheng
This is the 2nd refinancing news thus far. The first one was the Empire Resorts 300mil bond expiring in Nov'26 and will be refinanced via credit facility by Wells Fargo it seems. Another USD denominated notes to be "refinanced" in 2027 will be ~700mil RWLV term loan expiring in Oct'27. Thereafter, Genting RMTN and Genting Capital MYR denominated notes which is slightly more than 2bil will have to be "refinanced" too.
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cheng
Details of the notes and expiry dates can be retrieved from the 2025 annual reports under notes 36 for borrowings. In summary, 2026 and 2027 expiring notes will be the drag for Gent. Refinancing to a longer maturity date will provide the time for earnings to catch up & debt to come down.
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Philip Ooi
Cheng, is it consider good news?
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Cheng, the publication has gained attention!
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Vin Vin
Maybe is taurx approve soon ?
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Chances super high
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Look at the buying momentum now!
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cheng
Yes it is, Philip. The reason is that it gives time for earnings to catch up with the longer maturity date. And if you can recalled, the rating agencies downgraded Gent due to the debt on hands and in fact, the concern is these debt/notes that are expiring in 2026 and 2027.
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cheng
Are you referring to the publication in the journal, lkk? I saw it has been cited as shared yesterday and it's a good thing. It carries more weight than a paper with 0 citation. We do not know the full list of info requested by UK MHRA but I believed this paper is one of it.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Yes, that’s right Cheng. This publication carries a lot of weight. At current price, nothing is priced in for Taurx.
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cheng
Got it, you are referring to the pricing in of getting the maa from UK MHRA. Just have to wait for the outcome. Not too late to add on post maa, lkk - risk mgmt if you will. In terms of valuations - the last transacted price for TauRx share was USD$125 per share in 2024. It should go higher if maa is granted.
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Man Han
Cheng dont wait lol.. Train start moving.. 上车咯
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cheng
Must be painful for margin buyers that were squeezed out on the last week of Mar. Its showing slight strength today and nearly close at the open price of day 1 forced selling on 24th Mar. The more refinancing or redemption news of the 2026 and 2027 expiring notes, the higher it should go; until earnings of GenS and RWLV showing otherwise.
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cheng
Another hype coming next week - A big week for gamblers is in the cards.

New York City’s first-ever full-fledged casino offering live table games will open next Tuesday — at Resorts World next to the Aqueduct racetrack in Queens.

Queens-bred rapper Nas will attend the ribbon-cutting and ceremonial throw of the first dice after Genting-owned Resorts World was one of three bidders awarded a state license last December to offer live table games.
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Ah Choon Wong
Cheng , next Tuesday, so fast ……hahaha !
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cheng
Never bet against the house as the saying goes, Ah Choon. LKT is the casino tycoon after all. Lol, no pun intended. I was surprised with what I read in the latest annual report for RWNYC; usd500mil license fee paid instead of usd600mil per the bid :) Didnt expect that as the market's expectation was 600mil per the bid document. A good question to ask in AGM by the shareholders will be the tax rate for RWNYC full casino. The bid came with 56% for slots and 30% for table games.
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cheng
As for the opening, original phase 1 plan was 250 live tables and 4000 slots. The rest including hotel, arena, restaurants and other amenities will be in phase 2 by 2030. Not sure how many tables and slots will go live next week.
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Philip Ooi
Cheng, meaning there is additional 100M USD savings gained?
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cheng
It is usd100mil cost saving if what is stated in the annual report is accurate, Philip. Here's the exact statement from the report - In January 2026, GENNY utilised this facility for payment of commercial casino licence fee amounting to USD500.0 million.
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cheng
So, it will be interesting to know the status of RWNYC's request to NY Gaming Commission to lower the tax rate to match the other two license holders or increase their tax rate to match RWNYC's original bid.
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cheng
RWS license renewal in Feb'27 which means this year performance will determine whether its a 2 years or 3 years renewal - mission critical :). RWNYC live games opening next week heading into summer, RWLV summer deal - https://www.rwlasvegas.com/press/resorts-world-las-vegas-debuts-the-strips-first-luxury-inclusive-experience-exclusively-at-conrad/
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Vin Vin
Rebound from 2.20-2.56... not bad
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mrs xlg
vinvin你觉得现在genting怎么样趋势来说
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mrs xlg
下个星期我看可以炒一轮上去突破2.6了过后
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cheng
Indeed, Vin. Hopefully more strength after the new usd1.5bil bond issuance by gohl. checked the details in HKEX earlier and its not available yet.
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cheng
there you go :) speaking of the devil.
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Vin Vin
xlg..云顶坏消息都几年了。。。应该是时候醒一醒了
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sun Sun
对!买了放3个月,你会看到股价最少3.0以上,或者4块
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Kyory Lau
Ok. More than 10% return achieve for technical rebound
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Kyory Lau
Hurdle seem when above RM2.80
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Vin Vin
lucky stay Above 10b market cap again
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Kyory Lau
This round rebound take 4 weeks.. exceed my expectation normally 2 to 3 weeks. Swing tradera will better than day traders
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cheng
Insiders made a move yesterday before market closing followed by the announcement of the new bonds :)
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cheng
I would expect more insiders to make their moves as they digest the details of the new bonds :)
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cheng
boss raised the bet, bankers called. fuhh... never underestimate the boss. he maybe hated due to underperforming share price but he definitely has something up his sleeve/deep toolkit
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Eddy Khoo
don't forget that the GENT was at rm5 back in early 2024 b4 all the controversies news and management decision to acquire Empire fully.
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Eddy Khoo
most of the negatives have been addressed such as penalty by the Las Vegas Authority and also winning the court case with its Bahmas partner and successfully obtained the NY license. instead of rebound, it cont to dive down until 2.20 price which is around the margin call price.
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Eddy Khoo
not forgetting the boss delivered two year end losses in Dec 2024 and Dec 2025 to depress the price further. Have the insiders done with their plans?
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cheng
insiders made a move yesterday and continued today. I would expect funds to follow suit as they digest the announcement :) Well, at least funds that are optimistic with Genting will make a move after the announcement yesterday
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cheng
They move, I move :) I am back as a small shareholder
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Vin Vin
2.76 strong resistance.... hope can break it ... and hope got good news announce soon ...since this week up alot
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mrs xlg
confirm can no worries
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cheng
The good news is the bonds issuance, Vin :) Old notes expiring in Jan 2027 will be replaced with the new bonds. And this new bond is where LKT raised the bet and bankers called. It is perpetual and non call :p Perpetual here meaning no expiry date and non call here means Genting cannot redeem until the agreed date.
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cheng
The term details are in the announcement yesterday
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cheng
another hype next week upon confirmation of phase 1 opening of RWNYC table games and additional slots
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Vin Vin
Cheng , hope got other news to boost up the share price...genm privatise or taurx .. if not.. next week price probably will correction again
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cheng
correction probably not, Vin :) Profit taking is possible. Privatise GenM to make way for "GentUS" listing in the future will be the best one as IPO proceeds can be used to pare down the debt significantly :) Boost the share price directly.
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Kyory Lau
Profit taking near or above RM2.80 1st ba... still US stocks better return.. bought Broadcom on 26 March at US313 then drop below US300 but now US420 within a month..
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Vin Vin
Unbelievable...from 2.20 shoot up to 2.75 within 2 weeks ...
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Kyory Lau
Go for US still world largest financial market..
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cheng
Genting raised to outperform from market perform by CreditSights after the details of new bonds issuance published by Gent, Vin :) Refinancing is no longer a concern if you will. I would expect funds that are optimistic with Gent will continue to load up. The next 3 qtrs earnings will determine whether Gent will continue to climb or stay low - (1) GenS performance will determine whether its a 2 years or 3 years license renewal in Feb'27 and whether The Laurus can bring back the VIPs (2) Sneak preview of phase 1 performance of RWNYC in Q2 and followed by full qtr contribution in Q3 (3) Summer deals for RWLV - Q3 performance that will be published by end of the year will provide better clarity of RWLV recovery potential.
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cheng
Indeed, Kyory :) Keep it up and manage it well.
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Kyory Lau
Ya, like us busy on work can't really monitor the market. So only can do swing trades which may held for few weeks to months. Need some patient but better and won't jitters as day traders.
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Vin Vin
thanks for the great info ! Cheng ! happy weekend!
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cheng
you can consider ETFs too for US market, Kyory
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cheng
You are welcome, Vin :) enjoy your weekend too
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Kyory Lau
Yes Cheng. I got use ETF too SPY or QQQ.. however, I still will pick some high growth stocks like Broadcom
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cheng
you can keep soxx in your list too for semiconductor. and IGV for software :)
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Kyory Lau
Hahaa... not go into so specific ETF. I put focus on few stocks only with supports of SPY and QQQ.
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cheng
ooh ok. maybe you should consider to build a watchlist of ETFs if you are active in the US market :) Use it to provide a sense of direction where the market is heading and whether its risk off or risk on mode :)
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cheng
LKT raised the bet, bankers called, Mr. Market acted accordingly and now, analysts rerated :) Analysts have revised the stock price targets upwards for Gent :) It was median of 3.44 before this and latest revision showing median of 4.42 with low of 3.54. Not surprising as refinancing/credit risk eases, the details of the new perpetual non call notes may potentially resulted in leverage improvement due to - old notes usd1.5bil will be deducted from the total liabilities, usd0.25bil cash deducted and usd1.25bil added to equity. It buys time for Gent to focus on RWS2.0 expansion and recovery, RWLV and RWNYC.
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