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WenChong Ng
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直接变垃圾股 收了一年了 价差都不够补股息 收了个寂寞
cheng
Not only glove companies, Man Han. Even the semiconductors factories workers. There should be quite an impact for these factories.
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Lionel Essi
其实云顶工资很高的^^|| 反而受最大影响是Mr diy, 99 speedmart, topglove 这些。 Good luck
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Nick Chung
E&E like VS, semicon Inari, anyways these already priced in since 2 months ago, waiting for cheap is hard
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K.c
云顶薪水非常高,普通职员都有三千多
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kok boon liu
预算案正在解锁来临的通膨,就这样。。。行政预算始终被我认为是国家发展的绊脚石没法改变。减轻国债是有看到政府努力着,虽然效果不彰,能闻到算OK了。各大行代表出来歌功颂德,那就有点恶心了。其实看到来就只是平平无奇的报告,看下来的政策吧!最后,大家再努力一点,国家破记录的税收需要保持。备注:牛身上是取不到羊毛的
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Rys Lih
Ah Thai byk dividends kena tax Liao...Ah Thai will replace dividends with bonus issue Liao
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JKS wuhu
good point o Rys, i think ah thai will boost share price to earn capital gain better than issue high dividend
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Rys Lih
need push higher sikit lelong
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cheng
ermm... not so straightforward, kok boon liu. different fiscal policies that gov can adopt and pretty much depends on the state of the nation. you either go with (1) fiscal expansion - increase spending and cut taxes to reverse economic downturn. we saw this during the pandemic phase. often it ends up with economy recovery, higher budget deficit, higher national debt level and inflation goes up (2) fiscal contraction - reduce spending and increase taxes to slow down economic activities to control inflation and reduce deficit, reduce debt. Our government doing its due diligence to prevent further burden to national debt while being conscious about the need to move the country forward - prosperous nation, well being of the people. So, opt for the middle path (3) fiscal consolidation - control spending, some form of tax increase to reduce deficit and manage the debt better. That's what you are seeing from this budget - reduce subsidies, tax increases in certain areas, no wow factor on massive spending or no curse factor on tax increase :), increase disposable income for lower income groups, higher minimum wage. Domestic tourism and retailers will benefit from this.
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kok boon liu
cheng,我不会英文,用翻译看也看不懂太多名词。这份预算案我没有太多恶意。沙砂,医疗。。。基本我都认同的,只是看了各大行代表出来表现霸屏,舒展舒展而已
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cheng
money supply or the interest rates are part of the monetary policy, Nick; central banks if you will. Basically, government uses fiscal policy and monetary policy to manage the economy. One might think of control spending means less money for growth. Not really as lower interest rates can boost growth and high capex companies / tech companies favors low interest rates :)
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cheng
no impact to dividends, Nick. the 2% is relatively low compared to capital gains from the capital invested and comparing to other countries. I think government is being mindful here and its commendable.
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cheng
all is well, kok. I am the same as you when it comes to mandarin/chinese words :)
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Rys Lih
saifu print more $ good for market ..can boost economy
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kok boon liu
cheng,政府从市场抽走资本,资本家就从市场拿回给政府。。。这很难理解,但你可以去理解。对不起,这里面有双关,甚至三关意义。我考虑不周,别记着
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Rys Lih
but got print another 80b for 2025
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cheng
alright, kok. the translation to english mentioned something about takes away capital from the market. Not sure if thats the meaning. I didnt notice anything on capital inflow and capital outflow related policies from the budget presented. Nevertheless, these are the topics for economists/gov.
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Rys Lih
more br1m more salary good for Ah Thai..long weekend sure full casino
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cheng
Will Mr. Market be kind enough not to gap up too much for Genting and GenM?
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Rys Lih
it's all under Ah Thai manipulated
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kok boon liu
cheng,从数月来美金贬值到老巴卖股等迹象,市场可能压注老特会赢得美大选。根据历史,如果美政权更替,美股大概率会有一波调整,投资需谨慎
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cheng
Thanks, kok. I am in the opinion that Kamala Harris will win based on the market behavior. The rationale behind my thinking is that policies will change when different party is in power and hence market will be spooked. Looking at the financial market behavior, it's not showing signs that Trump/new administration will win. Just my opinions, could be wrong. Hope it helps.
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Rys Lih
Donald duck no easy win.. because he is business man..
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Lionel Essi
kamala also no easy win. because she always talk craps never do. Good luck.
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Rys Lih
Ah Thai 2morrow continue push ?
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金融科技
泰国妹找你。。。。。。。。。
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cheng
Q3 results will be announced in ~4 weeks time; estimated on the 21st of Nov.
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Rys Lih
today ah Thai strong even closing book
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tim foo
Cheng,我看要等到年尾或年头才有机会了,觉得现在还是看不清。
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cheng
noted, tim foo. I will wait until next year for the results of RWNYC full casino license bid. Additional bonus if Genting/GenM sell off the Bahamas segment. My only expectation for GenM in its quarterly report is to stay above 700M ebitda quarterly. No taxes/levies hit for Genting/GenM from the budget which is favourable factor. Forex is beyond its control but its favourable for GenM now. Interest rates is down which is also favourable for GenM. Management has been singing the tune of reducing interest expense which leads to deleveraging which is a big positive for GenM in the long run. Exiting Bahamas segment bodes well for its ebitda and helps with deleveraging. For me, i am looking at the following - min 700M ebitda quarterly, deleveraging over time, RWNYC full casino license. I will exit my position if the following factors are no longer meeting my expectation by next year end :)
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tim foo
Cheng,谢谢你详细分析。
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cheng
Interesting commentaries from Moody's - On the regulatory complaint pertaining to the group’s operations at Resorts World Las Vegas LLC and a complaint by the minority shareholder of Resort World Bimini in the Bahamas, Moody’s does not expect these to result in significant financial damages and disruptions to operations.
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cheng
As Is - there is no disposition from Nevada Gaming Commission yet for RWLVS complaints stemming from Sibella court case since Apr'24 while federal court has sentenced Sibella to one year of probation and a fine of $9,500 for violating a federal law requiring casinos to know the source of their customer’s funds and file a suspicious activity report. Perhaps NGC is also waiting for Genting to respond back to the complaint and to decide thereafter. https://gaming.nv.gov/gaming/complaints/stipulations/
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cheng
Okay, Philip Stein is the attorney representing Genting America; top 50 Attorneys of Miami :) Defendant Genting Americas, Inc. is granted until and including November 22, 2024 to file a response/answer to Plaintiff Rav Bahamas.
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鄭崇聖
Feb降息1碼0.25%
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cheng
yes, it is 鄭崇聖. Interest rate cut has been the topic since early this year. Powell mentioned benchmark rate moving towards neutral rate :) Which means we will continue to see gradual cut going into 2025. And US Fed believes the US economy is still strong. When the economic situation changes for good or for bad, a new neutral interest rate will be calculated. And then, Fed will then make the adjustment accordingly moving towards the new neutral rate. So, if US economic indicators showing that its slowing down, a new neutral interest rate will be lower which will then lead to bigger rate cuts to move towards neutral rate. Just my opinions, could be wrong. Hope it helps.
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Vin Cullen
U.S Fed target interest to cut maybe...lower to 3.75-4%
Gens this qe.. Forex loss around 8m Sgd... But anyone know how much roughly forex gain for genm & genting since ringgit strengthen vs usd.. 4.80-4.09... Hehe
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cheng
its approx 150M for every 4.5% weakening of USD, Vin. Q2'24 USDMYR rate is approx 4.7 and Q3'24 end of Sep rate is approx 4.1; equivalent to ~12.5% weakening. Lets just take the average will do which is ~4.4 exchange rate. That will give us approx 8% weakening of USD which should translate to 200M++. Just a rough estimate and could be wrong.
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Vin Cullen
Wow... Sound good... 150m for genm. Consider good enough for me.. Haha.. So long genting don't have any good news...
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cheng
Lets just wait for the results, Vin. After all, I do not think funds/insti will make a move if Q3 earnings is below 250M net profit. In fact, GenM has to produce 250M for Q3 and Q4 respectively in my personal opinion to demand a valuation of min 3.00 :) Funds/insti are the driver for such big cap stocks.
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cheng
There is opportunity for Genting to hit the headlines within these 3 months based on the 150 days approval process from UK MHRA, Vin. The baseline assumption is no progress after so many years :) So, marketing authorization approval is big positive surprise. 20th +/- 2 days in Nov and Dec. The last date will be on the 23rd of Jan'25 based on the assumption that UK MHRA accepted the data/docs submitted for marketing authorization in Jul'24.
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WenChong Ng
cheng, I realise the more you share your point for this stock, the lower the price it hit ....
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cheng
really? Didn't know I have such jinx power :) Lol, no pun intended. I am just a small fish in genm/genting. It should be directed to the funds/insti that collectively increased their net short positions to above 60M while on the other hands, the IBs are issuing overweight/buy calls with different TPs.
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鄭崇聖
but cheng, I hard to think us fed will continue to cut interest rate when 2025 due to estimated inflation rate will increase soon ( so many hot money pump back to America,again)...for my opinion,Us Fed will be cut twice times more,when interest rates come to 4%,it will be stop or add rates soon
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cheng
That's how the US Fed works, 鄭崇聖; benchmark interest rates towards neutral rates. As far as I am aware, the current neutral rates baseline is at ~3%. Hence, we can expect "gradual" interest rate cut instead of aggressive cut towards 3% due to the current state of the economy.
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cheng
You can use the link below if you are monitoring the interest rates movement/projections, 鄭崇聖 https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html
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Whack9e
I felt the same too WenChong Ng, the more cheng analyze the more share price go dip. haha
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cheng
Tq for the compliments, Whack9e. Just sharing my opinions and insights based on the facts available :) Will continue to share as and when information is made available. As Is, Genting America is expected to file the response to RAV Bahamas by 22nd Nov. And GAI's panel of lawyers is led by Philip Stein. Names of 4 more lawyers submitted to the court making a total of 5 lawyers :)
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cheng
Lets look forward to the Q3 earnings report and followed by market cap position of GenM at the close of trading on 25th Nov :) For now, funds/insti have increased their net short positions in anticipation of index funds rebalancing assuming GenM is removed from FTSE KLCI constituents.
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tim foo
cheng,你还没放吗?我在223放了,暂时观望好了。
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cheng
I am still holding it, tim foo :) Price below 2.24 is the start of running loss for me :) I will wait for Q3 results to be released first. Will add if Q3 net profit is at least 250M. Else, will just wait instead of going against the current momentum :)
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cheng
I will exit if RWNYC didnt get the full casino license or two consecutive quarters' balance sheet shifted negatively in such that I am seeing the risk of maintaining min 15 cents dividend.
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tim foo
Cheng,我希望GENM有好的业绩,也祝你得到有好的回报率,我现在pa卡住,基本面不错的,不知为啥一直跌到现在,你可以帮我看看吗?
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cheng
Which one that you are stuck, tim foo? didnt see any counter from the translation to english.
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cheng
thanks, TN. will have a look at it later and revert back, tim foo.
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cheng
following are my opinions on PA based on quick read on its latest annual report, tim foo. Just my opinions, could be wrong. Hope it helps. Please consult the professionals if you have to. I did not perform any valuation as it will take a longer time to do so. (1) I did not see any financial risks from the balance sheet as cash >> total liabilities and looks to me a conservative style of mgmt. Decent payout in terms of dividend comparing to how much it is making. (2) pg16 calls out the business risks and that tells me it is a highly cyclical industry. There are 2 elements that you can monitor easily - usdmyr and aluminium price. As for the demand, you have to keep an eye on its major customer. Looking at the recent trends, it looks to me that USDMYR is the one driving the recent price actions. Every 10% weakening of USDMYR rate is equivalent ~RM9M decrease of PAT. And, usdmyr is relatively active this year compared to aluminium price and PA price trend correlates to usdmyr trend. While usdmyr has strengthened a bit over the last two months, its still down by ~6.5% from the peak in Apr'24. Its safe to assume that PAT for FY25 is trending to be lower by ~5.8M compared to FY24. Aluminium price is relatively stable at $2500+/-$200 per metric ton. (3) major geo is US and one major customer contributing to ~85% of its total revenue; should be First Solar. This is a risk that you need to price in into your price. No financial risk but high dependency on single source of revenue. You need good margins of safety. Additionally, Donald Trump is not a fan of solar energy given the dominance of China's solar panels but you may see First Solar shifting its focus to made in US panels. You can keep an eye on First Solar earnings call to give you a grasp of what's going on that could potentially affect PA from demand perspective. For now, it looks like First Solar has revised down its net sales guidance. https://investorshangout.com/first-solars-q3-2024-earnings-call-highlights-and-insights-107101-/
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cheng
net profit in FY24 is 45.7M and FY25 is trending lower due to weaker USD/MYR rate and trending to ~40M ctd assuming everything else equals. Instead of performing a full valuation exercise, you can use the PE method to estimate price. A PE10, 40M net profit will give it a price of 0.265 which is pretty close to current market price. Its a bit lengthy but hope it helps to add value to your own analysis, tim foo.
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tim foo
Cheng,你的详细分析很好,可以给到我学习看懂好多细节,现在我才明白为啥他一直下跌,谢谢你不私的分析和教道,感恩有你。
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Michael Saw
根据之前Pattern 11脚, 如果Pattern一样就是业绩出炉日云顶大马要大反弹了。
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Chan Ah Pek
Thx cheng for the detail explanation
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Kwong Mingkwei
美国一直想办法压制中国崛起,特朗普当选总统,中国的经济好不到哪里去,东南亚必然大受影响,云顶又非常依赖中国的赌客,短期内业绩不被看好。
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Lionel Essi
Kwong. 如果是这样前年到现在genting应该是飞啊. 所以你的逻辑不成立。XD good luck
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Michael Saw
中国再次出手打救房地产。这次是近一个月第5刺激。中国自强不息。
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Michael Saw
在老特领导下,习大大会放大刺激,目前他还没有直接性撒钱的刺激内地只是放松政策和优惠。
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Kwong Mingkwei
中国人在mco前,出国买东西好像不用钱这样,常有报道货物供不应求,现在已经没有这样夸张了,他们还是有钱的,比较懂得钱的重要性,经济不好让人学会居安思危。房价不在上涨了,股市也跌了很久到最近才反弹,如果经济好中国又何必拿出10万亿来救市?
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Michael Saw
直接撒钱应该会是逼不得已的情况再回用上
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Michael Saw
目前中国是经济不景气政府才需要出手刺激经济。经济不振人民消费当然谨慎。
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kok boon liu
这点我还是认同kwong的,所以去美国赚美国人的钱是出路。昨天的上涨还需看是不是空头回补,如果是,股价还会往下。短暂的反弹不是买进的良机 。 注:不是特打压,是谁做总统都会打压
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Michael Saw
美国降息出周期已经开始,每年美国房地产会开始回温,如果云顶还要卖出miami的地,机会即将到来。
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Kwong Mingkwei
中国人均GDP跟我们差不多,但是国家的科技进步有目共睹,美国几百年的发展保持领先,中国已经不是吴下阿蒙了,再多10年超越美国是迟早的事,就算打压也只能让中国放慢脚步吧了……
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Michael Saw
是就是因为太强怕被超越才打压啊。
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Kwong Mingkwei
2011年买下Miami的黄金地段,当年花2.36亿美元,现在的价值超过10亿,拿不到博彩执照卖掉也很好赚,可以还掉部分债务。
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Michael Saw
对啊。可以套利也赚几倍同时也可以减轻债务一举两得何乐不为。
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ikanbiliskering
重点是有买家吗?
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Michael Saw
这个等美国降息多几次他们那里房地产就会热,倒是自然有人买
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Kwong Mingkwei
不久前公司发表的文告说有四位买家,如果是真的早就卖掉了,为何到现在无声无息?
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Michael Saw
因为那时是升息周期所以买家都打退堂鼓
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Michael Saw
房地产是会在降息周期慢慢热,然后很都房地产商就会购地起楼发展。
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cheng
You are welcome, tim foo, chan :)
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Nick Chung
快速快决。。长痛不如短痛! 直接 2.0 吧 x.x
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Michael Saw
是咯不要浪费时间一次搞点他。。。。。
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cheng
relief plan will be known by the 25th of Nov, Nick :) For now, funds/insti have pre-positioned themselves by increasing their net short positions. Current trend seems to be driven by the ftse klci constituent index fund rebalancing instead of financial performance:) Small fish like us can only wait for panic sell opportunity. cooler heads prevail.
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Michael Saw
Bro leo, depend on what price u get la...2.0 ok ba
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cheng
Thanks, Nick. I have no idea how much is the impact of ftse klci index funds rebalancing. Will get to experience that if it happens and looking forward to buy the dip.
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Michael Saw
Play rebound lol....
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Michael Saw
ok good luck to you..ganbateh
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cheng
Philip Stein, Roger Cooper, Maria Manghi, Boaz S. Morag, and Ayushe Misra are the attorneys representing GAI in the case against RAV Bahamas.
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Rys Lih Fak you
Is Gambareh not '干爸爹'
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Michael Saw
哈哈哈。。。whatever la....
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金融科技
waiting 2.0 below.. if more more good
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Nick Chung
gap filled , tp 2.3-2.4
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Michael Saw
有点光了是吗?
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Michael Saw
那个价除非云顶像MCO那样亏100亿以上。目前怎样看都是不可能的。
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Nick Chung
如果 3.00 , genm 就 1.5 了 xD
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Michael Saw
MCO 都不敢去到1.5, 现在的情况还能吗?
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Michael Saw
如果关注Resorts World Las Vegas 的youtube视频,生意的确是越来越好。云顶什么时候可以提升margin来cover increase cost 或者减低一些债务公司就会有不错的成绩。
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cheng
Growth to tycoons like Trump means easy access to credit; debt financing aka low interest rates environment, Nick :)
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cheng
low interest rates will be good for hotels and resorts - capex if you will, Nick. We wont be seeing new licenses being issued every month and hence, not expecting capex for new casinos in general for the industry. However, you may see IR operators capex spending on hotels retrofitting/upgrades, theme park/entertainment capex and probably some on the slots machines/tables - replace old slots/table games.
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金融科技
变成高股息的香饽饽。。。。
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