WenChong Ng's comment on GENM. All Comments

WenChong Ng
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直接变垃圾股 收了一年了 价差都不够补股息 收了个寂寞
cheng
Okay, Philip Stein is the attorney representing Genting America; top 50 Attorneys of Miami :) Defendant Genting Americas, Inc. is granted until and including November 22, 2024 to file a response/answer to Plaintiff Rav Bahamas.
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鄭崇聖
Feb降息1碼0.25%
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cheng
yes, it is 鄭崇聖. Interest rate cut has been the topic since early this year. Powell mentioned benchmark rate moving towards neutral rate :) Which means we will continue to see gradual cut going into 2025. And US Fed believes the US economy is still strong. When the economic situation changes for good or for bad, a new neutral interest rate will be calculated. And then, Fed will then make the adjustment accordingly moving towards the new neutral rate. So, if US economic indicators showing that its slowing down, a new neutral interest rate will be lower which will then lead to bigger rate cuts to move towards neutral rate. Just my opinions, could be wrong. Hope it helps.
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Vin Vin
U.S Fed target interest to cut maybe...lower to 3.75-4%
Gens this qe.. Forex loss around 8m Sgd... But anyone know how much roughly forex gain for genm & genting since ringgit strengthen vs usd.. 4.80-4.09... Hehe
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cheng
its approx 150M for every 4.5% weakening of USD, Vin. Q2'24 USDMYR rate is approx 4.7 and Q3'24 end of Sep rate is approx 4.1; equivalent to ~12.5% weakening. Lets just take the average will do which is ~4.4 exchange rate. That will give us approx 8% weakening of USD which should translate to 200M++. Just a rough estimate and could be wrong.
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Vin Vin
Wow... Sound good... 150m for genm. Consider good enough for me.. Haha.. So long genting don't have any good news...
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cheng
Lets just wait for the results, Vin. After all, I do not think funds/insti will make a move if Q3 earnings is below 250M net profit. In fact, GenM has to produce 250M for Q3 and Q4 respectively in my personal opinion to demand a valuation of min 3.00 :) Funds/insti are the driver for such big cap stocks.
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cheng
There is opportunity for Genting to hit the headlines within these 3 months based on the 150 days approval process from UK MHRA, Vin. The baseline assumption is no progress after so many years :) So, marketing authorization approval is big positive surprise. 20th +/- 2 days in Nov and Dec. The last date will be on the 23rd of Jan'25 based on the assumption that UK MHRA accepted the data/docs submitted for marketing authorization in Jul'24.
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WenChong Ng
cheng, I realise the more you share your point for this stock, the lower the price it hit ....
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cheng
really? Didn't know I have such jinx power :) Lol, no pun intended. I am just a small fish in genm/genting. It should be directed to the funds/insti that collectively increased their net short positions to above 60M while on the other hands, the IBs are issuing overweight/buy calls with different TPs.
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鄭崇聖
but cheng, I hard to think us fed will continue to cut interest rate when 2025 due to estimated inflation rate will increase soon ( so many hot money pump back to America,again)...for my opinion,Us Fed will be cut twice times more,when interest rates come to 4%,it will be stop or add rates soon
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cheng
That's how the US Fed works, 鄭崇聖; benchmark interest rates towards neutral rates. As far as I am aware, the current neutral rates baseline is at ~3%. Hence, we can expect "gradual" interest rate cut instead of aggressive cut towards 3% due to the current state of the economy.
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cheng
You can use the link below if you are monitoring the interest rates movement/projections, 鄭崇聖 https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html
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Whack9e
I felt the same too WenChong Ng, the more cheng analyze the more share price go dip. haha
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cheng
Tq for the compliments, Whack9e. Just sharing my opinions and insights based on the facts available :) Will continue to share as and when information is made available. As Is, Genting America is expected to file the response to RAV Bahamas by 22nd Nov. And GAI's panel of lawyers is led by Philip Stein. Names of 4 more lawyers submitted to the court making a total of 5 lawyers :)
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cheng
Lets look forward to the Q3 earnings report and followed by market cap position of GenM at the close of trading on 25th Nov :) For now, funds/insti have increased their net short positions in anticipation of index funds rebalancing assuming GenM is removed from FTSE KLCI constituents.
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tim foo
cheng,你还没放吗?我在223放了,暂时观望好了。
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cheng
I am still holding it, tim foo :) Price below 2.24 is the start of running loss for me :) I will wait for Q3 results to be released first. Will add if Q3 net profit is at least 250M. Else, will just wait instead of going against the current momentum :)
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cheng
I will exit if RWNYC didnt get the full casino license or two consecutive quarters' balance sheet shifted negatively in such that I am seeing the risk of maintaining min 15 cents dividend.
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tim foo
Cheng,我希望GENM有好的业绩,也祝你得到有好的回报率,我现在pa卡住,基本面不错的,不知为啥一直跌到现在,你可以帮我看看吗?
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cheng
Which one that you are stuck, tim foo? didnt see any counter from the translation to english.
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cheng
thanks, TN. will have a look at it later and revert back, tim foo.
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cheng
following are my opinions on PA based on quick read on its latest annual report, tim foo. Just my opinions, could be wrong. Hope it helps. Please consult the professionals if you have to. I did not perform any valuation as it will take a longer time to do so. (1) I did not see any financial risks from the balance sheet as cash >> total liabilities and looks to me a conservative style of mgmt. Decent payout in terms of dividend comparing to how much it is making. (2) pg16 calls out the business risks and that tells me it is a highly cyclical industry. There are 2 elements that you can monitor easily - usdmyr and aluminium price. As for the demand, you have to keep an eye on its major customer. Looking at the recent trends, it looks to me that USDMYR is the one driving the recent price actions. Every 10% weakening of USDMYR rate is equivalent ~RM9M decrease of PAT. And, usdmyr is relatively active this year compared to aluminium price and PA price trend correlates to usdmyr trend. While usdmyr has strengthened a bit over the last two months, its still down by ~6.5% from the peak in Apr'24. Its safe to assume that PAT for FY25 is trending to be lower by ~5.8M compared to FY24. Aluminium price is relatively stable at $2500+/-$200 per metric ton. (3) major geo is US and one major customer contributing to ~85% of its total revenue; should be First Solar. This is a risk that you need to price in into your price. No financial risk but high dependency on single source of revenue. You need good margins of safety. Additionally, Donald Trump is not a fan of solar energy given the dominance of China's solar panels but you may see First Solar shifting its focus to made in US panels. You can keep an eye on First Solar earnings call to give you a grasp of what's going on that could potentially affect PA from demand perspective. For now, it looks like First Solar has revised down its net sales guidance. https://investorshangout.com/first-solars-q3-2024-earnings-call-highlights-and-insights-107101-/
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cheng
net profit in FY24 is 45.7M and FY25 is trending lower due to weaker USD/MYR rate and trending to ~40M ctd assuming everything else equals. Instead of performing a full valuation exercise, you can use the PE method to estimate price. A PE10, 40M net profit will give it a price of 0.265 which is pretty close to current market price. Its a bit lengthy but hope it helps to add value to your own analysis, tim foo.
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tim foo
Cheng,你的详细分析很好,可以给到我学习看懂好多细节,现在我才明白为啥他一直下跌,谢谢你不私的分析和教道,感恩有你。
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Michael Saw
根据之前Pattern 11脚, 如果Pattern一样就是业绩出炉日云顶大马要大反弹了。
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Chan Ah Pek
Thx cheng for the detail explanation
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Kwong Mingkwei
美国一直想办法压制中国崛起,特朗普当选总统,中国的经济好不到哪里去,东南亚必然大受影响,云顶又非常依赖中国的赌客,短期内业绩不被看好。
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Lionel Essi
Kwong. 如果是这样前年到现在genting应该是飞啊. 所以你的逻辑不成立。XD good luck
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Michael Saw
中国再次出手打救房地产。这次是近一个月第5刺激。中国自强不息。
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Michael Saw
在老特领导下,习大大会放大刺激,目前他还没有直接性撒钱的刺激内地只是放松政策和优惠。
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Kwong Mingkwei
中国人在mco前,出国买东西好像不用钱这样,常有报道货物供不应求,现在已经没有这样夸张了,他们还是有钱的,比较懂得钱的重要性,经济不好让人学会居安思危。房价不在上涨了,股市也跌了很久到最近才反弹,如果经济好中国又何必拿出10万亿来救市?
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Michael Saw
直接撒钱应该会是逼不得已的情况再回用上
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Michael Saw
目前中国是经济不景气政府才需要出手刺激经济。经济不振人民消费当然谨慎。
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kok boon liu
这点我还是认同kwong的,所以去美国赚美国人的钱是出路。昨天的上涨还需看是不是空头回补,如果是,股价还会往下。短暂的反弹不是买进的良机 。 注:不是特打压,是谁做总统都会打压
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Michael Saw
美国降息出周期已经开始,每年美国房地产会开始回温,如果云顶还要卖出miami的地,机会即将到来。
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Kwong Mingkwei
中国人均GDP跟我们差不多,但是国家的科技进步有目共睹,美国几百年的发展保持领先,中国已经不是吴下阿蒙了,再多10年超越美国是迟早的事,就算打压也只能让中国放慢脚步吧了……
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Michael Saw
是就是因为太强怕被超越才打压啊。
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Kwong Mingkwei
2011年买下Miami的黄金地段,当年花2.36亿美元,现在的价值超过10亿,拿不到博彩执照卖掉也很好赚,可以还掉部分债务。
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Michael Saw
对啊。可以套利也赚几倍同时也可以减轻债务一举两得何乐不为。
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ikanbiliskering
重点是有买家吗?
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Michael Saw
这个等美国降息多几次他们那里房地产就会热,倒是自然有人买
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Kwong Mingkwei
不久前公司发表的文告说有四位买家,如果是真的早就卖掉了,为何到现在无声无息?
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Michael Saw
因为那时是升息周期所以买家都打退堂鼓
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Michael Saw
房地产是会在降息周期慢慢热,然后很都房地产商就会购地起楼发展。
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cheng
You are welcome, tim foo, chan :)
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Nick Chung
快速快决。。长痛不如短痛! 直接 2.0 吧 x.x
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Michael Saw
是咯不要浪费时间一次搞点他。。。。。
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cheng
relief plan will be known by the 25th of Nov, Nick :) For now, funds/insti have pre-positioned themselves by increasing their net short positions. Current trend seems to be driven by the ftse klci constituent index fund rebalancing instead of financial performance:) Small fish like us can only wait for panic sell opportunity. cooler heads prevail.
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Michael Saw
Bro leo, depend on what price u get la...2.0 ok ba
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cheng
Thanks, Nick. I have no idea how much is the impact of ftse klci index funds rebalancing. Will get to experience that if it happens and looking forward to buy the dip.
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Michael Saw
Play rebound lol....
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Michael Saw
ok good luck to you..ganbateh
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cheng
Philip Stein, Roger Cooper, Maria Manghi, Boaz S. Morag, and Ayushe Misra are the attorneys representing GAI in the case against RAV Bahamas.
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Rys Lih Fak you
Is Gambareh not '干爸爹'
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Michael Saw
哈哈哈。。。whatever la....
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金融科技
waiting 2.0 below.. if more more good
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Nick Chung
gap filled , tp 2.3-2.4
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Michael Saw
有点光了是吗?
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Michael Saw
那个价除非云顶像MCO那样亏100亿以上。目前怎样看都是不可能的。
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Michael Saw
MCO 都不敢去到1.5, 现在的情况还能吗?
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Michael Saw
如果关注Resorts World Las Vegas 的youtube视频,生意的确是越来越好。云顶什么时候可以提升margin来cover increase cost 或者减低一些债务公司就会有不错的成绩。
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cheng
Growth to tycoons like Trump means easy access to credit; debt financing aka low interest rates environment, Nick :)
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cheng
low interest rates will be good for hotels and resorts - capex if you will, Nick. We wont be seeing new licenses being issued every month and hence, not expecting capex for new casinos in general for the industry. However, you may see IR operators capex spending on hotels retrofitting/upgrades, theme park/entertainment capex and probably some on the slots machines/tables - replace old slots/table games.
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金融科技
变成高股息的香饽饽。。。。
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cheng
volatility expected from 26th Nov to 23rd Dec; index funds rebalancing post FTSE KLCI constituent changes.
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鄭崇聖
新加坡雲頂好像有不好的消息,License的更新有問題。。。
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nicholas tan
casino so big. won't have anything 1 la.
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鄭崇聖
馬股沒救了,連Mayban都大跌。。。
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Soo Kai Ng
有跌有机会, 我在收稳定的股息股呢.
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cheng
Not a concern, 鄭崇聖. The casino license exclusive rights were given to both RWS and LVS Marina Bay until 2030. A further review will take place by then and unlikely to see entrance of new players unless SG gomen/tourism board wanted these two to exit the island :) As for casino license renewal - its a normal periodic review process. Indeed the usual given timeframe is 3 years and the reason given for two years is unsatisfactory tourism performance between 2021 to 2023 :) Those are recovery period during pandemic :) My personal opinion is that gomen wanted GenS to probably speed up the completion of RWS2.0 and pump the money into the island aggressively :) Current plan by GenS is to have RWS2.0 completion by 2028. LVS Marina Bay has also requested for extension to its original plan for capex which could not be completed by 2025 previously or face losing its license. The next review for LVS Marina Bay is Apr'25.
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cheng
Just saw the news about LVS Marina Bay :) Safe to assume its all about capex :)
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Eddy Khoo
it s just a gimmick by Singapore gov to get more investment and development in RWS. that s how they pressure the biz unlike Malaysia, 20 years no improvement no development, no issue. still can get licence extension.
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cheng
I believed so, Eddy. And lets not forget Thailand is making a move on the other end :) And GenS will most likely be the one bidding for it from Genting group perspective. LVS has been eyeing Thailand as early as 2015 :) So, makes sense for SG gomen to react first - securing the investment deal is not good enough now. It has to be Done and Dusted :) Lol, no pun intended.
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Nick Chung
wowowo new low coming
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cheng
yes it is. attractive but wont add until the performance report is out, Nick. Will add if the report showing min 250M earnings at the back of 700M ebitda. Not gonna do anything otherwise from the earnings perspective. The volatility from KLCI constituents change will start from now until last week of Dec from the index funds rebalancing. There should be opportunity and hopefully price dated back to early 2000 :) Waiting for the volatility.
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leo king
Every price also attractive for you, from rm2.50 i heard from you till now
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Selina Lim
This time suitable to enter ?
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lau andy kok chong
very cheap.............
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Michael Saw
It is rock bottom price
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Selina Lim
But if GENM be out for 30 top index price will no same right
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lau andy kok chong
God knows...................
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Michael Saw
Sure not same........
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cheng
There will be volatility from index funds rebalancing, Selina Lim. The current market cap position by the end of trading day today will be showing GenM meeting the condition of removal and Gamuda which is in the reserve list went up to top 25 which is meeting the condition of inclusion to the index.
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cheng
Wait for the earnings first and volatility during index funds rebalancing, Andy. Additionally, Genting America (GAI) has started the court proceeding against RAV Bahamas as of 22nd Nov.
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Vin Vin
After so many years... Both genting finally remove from fbmklci component... His dad will find LKT and give him a punishment when he sleep..
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Jordan Lim
no eyes see 。。。。
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Soo Kai Ng
12月5号将重新调整30大股, 取决于今天的收市价, genm才12个B多, 被踢出是没悬念了. 再然后那些指数成份股基金被迫丢票可能使股价进一步下跌?
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cheng
That's a strong remark for LKT, Vin. Current price goes back all the way to 2003 :)
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Michael Saw
If GENM can make 400M this quarter may be his father will jump up hehehe
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leo king
should have been removed earlier.
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Michael Saw
But can always join back during review if perform well later
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leo king
yes. ytl ytlp removed when underperform and come back. for now even myeg doing better than genm
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cheng
Volatility is expected, Soo Kai Ng. Index funds will have to exit as GenM is no longer an index constituent. Funds/insti on the other hands can increase their net short positions instead of selling out to leverage on the current momentum.
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Michael Saw
leo, MYEG 0.83 few weeks back ppl scold like shit...Now everyone say like hero hehehe
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leo king
ms, i didnt scold myeg. my only rebound play counter is myeg and ytlp as you know.
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Michael Saw
I didnt say u....comments from others.
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cheng
MYEG is hero? I thought myeg is a mysterious stock.
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