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Michael Wong
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good job. finally reverse to profit d...
Wei Yoong
Last QR's operating cash flow already turn positive, this QR net profit also turn positive, recovery engine started.....
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cheng
started but it is still far away from recovery. the nature of its business depends on guests/tourists - domestic or international. Total tourists visiting Malaysia were averagely at 25M people yearly until 2019. There were less than 4M tourists in 2022 and 2023 target is 9M tourists. On the flip side, the price of Shang is becoming attractive if it is selling below 3.0. Just sharing my opinions, could be wrong. Hope it helps.
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Nick Chung
below 3.0 to wash out weak holders seem like a good plan
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cheng
indeed, Nick. and disposal by Aberdeen helps to create some liquidity for this asset too.
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Wei Yoong
Nice talk cheng, Ya you are right, asian chinese prefer SHANG, such like china tourists, western tourists are prefers other western brand hotel such as Hilton. Well, different culture. We can stay track on the occupation rate of the hotel to check the recovery stages. So far, every hotels and resorts occupancy rate was gam gam above 50% as at Sep 2022. I'm expecting a higher occupancy rate in following QR which is as at Dec 2022, due to more festivals in the quarter.
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Raymond Fah
Marriott, Hilton, Hyatt 都起了15% 以上 。
shang 还要跌吗 ?
呵呵 。。。 yummy
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Wei Yoong
Raymond Fah, 虽然都是hotel and resorts 但是如果要严格来说,他们都是属于成长期的,你可以看到他们一直在建酒店 买地皮 收购其他酒店 这些都是在shang malaysia看不到的,还有shang有aberdeen 哈哈哈 他们没有,如果你说涨15%,你看SHANG的母公司,也是从4块涨到7块了 只是子公司没有涨罢了
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Raymond Fah
说的也是 。
老人股还是放着等股息 。
这也可能是 aber 出货的原因吧 !
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cheng
Thanks for sharing, Wei Yoong. Occupancy rates improved indeed, but the room rates or RevPAR is still way lower compared to what it was before the pandemic. Perhaps requires a little more time.
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Wei Yoong
Cheng, let it come one by one la, its not easy to recover the whole business from the pandemic. I believe the room rates will gradually increase back once the tourist volumes and spending come back. As what I know, in feb, airasia have around 15 planes fly to n back from China, in Mar, the number will be doubled. This is what I heared from the radio last week.
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cheng
Thanks, Wei Yoong. Agreed that its not easy for the recovery. The RevPAR has probably recovered by 50% from the value before pandemic and possible to achieve 60 to 70% recovery by end of this year assuming the 9M total tourists arrivals can be achieved. Will be looking forward for the opportunity to add when the price becomes attractive.
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cheng
Beginning to offer attractive price :)
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BK LEE
volume hike.
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Nick Chung
let it break 3.00 I will all in
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bppoh75 poh
那么刺激?跌跌不休,搞什么叻??
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BK LEE
泄漏消息,还是黄金坑?
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t ws
搞什么鬼,这个季度会亏损吗
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Wei Yoong
不太可能会亏损吧 ?
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cheng
Nick's power :) Manage it well as its a long journey. F&B segment will probably recover faster than the rooms segment. Room's occupancy is up to decent level but RevPAR is still low; what used to be ranging from RM250 to RM450 per night is now ranging from RM50 to RM150 as of early 2022. Data from Tourism Malaysia will be a boost for the RevPAR; 9M is the target for 2023.
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Nick Chung
retailer too stonk
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cheng
Thanks to Aberdeen that helps to provide liquidity to the stock :) We should be seeing RevPAR at 50% as of 2nd half of 2022. Waiting for the report. And should continue to climb towards 60% to 70% range by end of 2023.
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Raymond Fah
云顶亏 。。。。
看来这里也没太高希望咯 !
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Lee Wei Kang
不会读财报吗?......
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Raymond Fah
我不会呢 !
你会吗 !?
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BK LEE
dont ganjiong quarter report coming..
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t ws
业绩几时出?这个季度很多foreign exchange lost
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Wei Yoong
t ws, shang的foreign exchange loss应该不会很多,因为没有海外生意,虽然一些旅客也会用美金给但是影响不大,可能会有fair investment value loss at myanmar hotel 吧 毕竟那么生意真的不好 ?
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bppoh75 poh
Shang是国内产业,应该没什么外汇吧
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Wei Yoong
旅客可以用美金,港币,人民币预定房间before来到malaysia 所以多多少少还是有点
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BK LEE
tws 星期一 or 二吧
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t ws
bklee 好的,希望业绩不错,祝大家好运
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Raymond Fah
牛奶公司都亏 。。。。。moooooo
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cheng
Wei Yoong is right that forex impact on sales/revenues/purchases are insignificant as it's mainly in Ringgit. The Forex impact will be more to it's borrowings/loans; US dollar and HK dollar
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Michael Wong
tomolo result out? div will b how many cents kali ni?
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cheng
Unlikely to have dividend. It will be a surprise to me if Shang is providing dividend now. Should not have any dividend until (1) (short term funds placements + cash and bank balances) > (short term borrowings + long term borrowings). As of last quarter results, its still in net debt position. (2) Retained earnings has to go up again as dividend is paid from there; distributable. Total shareholder equity to go up accordingly as retained earnings go up. Just my opinions, could be wrong. Hope it helps.
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Wei Yoong
ohh Ya cheng, u are correct, forex impact from borrowing.
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cheng
Worst is over as the operations begins to narrow the losses qoq/yoy and cash flow turning positive at the back of impairment, forex and low tourists count by end of 2022. Going forward, Ministry of Tourism seems to have set a target of 16M tourists count for 2023 instead of the initial 9M; 2022 actual count was slightly more than 4M. Higher tourists count will help to boost the RevPAR and contributes to higher sales. Visit Malaysia 2025 with the target of 23.5M tourist count. The prospects are now lined up accordingly :)
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t ws
今天3.40 开始他被一直买主上
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BK LEE
也许渡过了一个转折点?
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Nick Chung
owh it did break 3.00 today ...
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Raymond Fah
红飞机赚钱了 !
旅游业回来了 。
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t ws
真希望这次真的是触底了
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t ws
今天早盘的量很低似乎是小散户在卖,午盘量大了买的也比较重手
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bppoh75 poh
期待2023年了,2022收尾不漂亮
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爱丽丝
利空出尽不怎跌
应该有希望了
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t ws
看来外资似乎停止抛了。。。。
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