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tmr sell still entitle for bonus issue?
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wei song lim
If tmr 1.50 u will sell or hold?
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sean kua
hahah a tomorrow half price0。69 only haha.
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Eddy Khoo
tomorrow price would be adjusted to around 0.530. you can't just divide by 2 as there is a warrant too.
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Aron Chao
Eddy how to calculate the price to 0.525?
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Eddy Khoo
Closing price as well as Warrants exercise price RM0.20 formula . Theoretical Price calculate by ESCERAM
Example:
RM1.00 adjust to RM0.4
RM1.10 adjust to RM0.433
RM1.20 adjust to RM0.466
RM1.30 adjust to RM0.5
RM1.40 adjust to RM0.533
RM1.50 adjust to RM0.566
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Eddy Khoo
reason being is that there is a value carry by the warrant. hence yesterday price closing at 1.38 = 2 Esceramic shares + warrants value.
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Hii Jacky
Eddy ，how to calculate? Got any formula
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Sky Light18
(RM1.38 + Warrant strike price (0.20)) / 3 = RM0.526 ~ RM0.525
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Hii Jacky
Thanks sky!!!
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Sky Light18
you are welcome
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Howard Fch
so warrant need how to sell?
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Jenny Mu
How do u calculate ur profit if u bought before today?
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Eddy Khoo
u sell warrants as how u sell your normal shares. it s only different if you want to exercise your warrants. that u need to call your IB to initiate it.
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Eddy Khoo
Jenny Mu, u meant paper profit is it? that would be your total esceramic holdings which should be double of yesterday holding, eg. if u have 1000 units yesterday and today you should use 2000 units. as for warrants theoretically now it should worth 0.60++ now. so your total value is 2 x rm810 + rm600 = rm2220
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Eddy Khoo
I'm using 0.810 as the reference price.
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Wilson Koo
This stock have warrant?? Cant find
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Eddy Khoo
listing on 26 October.
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RLCH
If the listing is on 26/10, does this mean I can only sell my bonus issue shares on that date? Or can I sell before it’s in my CDS account?
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Eddy Khoo
how to sell if you don't have it in your acct? the system won't let u sell something that s not inside your acct.
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RLCH
@Eddy thanks for confirming! Didn’t want to look too noob in front of remisier
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Eddy Khoo
you can check with your remisier if you can sell it. maybe they have different system which is different from our normal trading system. for example, I cannot sell odd lots myself, but I can get my IB to help me to sell odd lots.
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Jess On
Hi Eddy, if I sell the share I bought yesterday, bonus share n warrant still entitled right?
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Eddy Khoo
you must hold until 13 Oct as 14 Oct is the ex date. u still entitle to the bonus shares and warrants even if u sell today.
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Eddy Khoo
go and Google different between ex date, entitlement date and payment/listing date. don't simply tikam here
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No Name
Don sell today if u bought yesterday. T+2..ur account still yet deduct by bursa.. Or else u will kena contra loss
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Jess On
Thx everyone, confirmed by my remiser
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Yuh Shiuh
@swanlin so what can we do now??
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No Name
Yuh, if u bought yesterday and had sold all your unit today. It means u already kena contra loss. U have to buy back today and ask ur remiser to help u place under intra trade then only can save u..
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Yuh Shiuh
not yet sold. I guess I have to topup to avoid contra lose right
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No Name
If u din sell today u won't kena contra loss..if u top up now and the share price go down u also can not sell. Must pass t+2 only can sell as the system will treat u sell the units u bought yesterday.
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Yuh Shiuh
but soon will force sell if I no topup?
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Yuh Shiuh
I will see how tmr..
hope you are right about this hehe
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No Name
Hope everything good haha.. Luckily I bought little only.. Haha..
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Yuh Shiuh
but how to say if I sell on today won't kena contra loss? since the bonus share haven't credit to us yet
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Jenny Mu
Ya, I still don't see the right price reflected and negative earning.. So I still shouldn't sell?
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Yc Ooi
Sell only what you have on hand
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Jenny Mu
But not confident since it's still showing old price therefore its still loss now
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韦小宝
Jenny never try never know.... if got penalty, don't forget to leave comment here and let us know....lol
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Hew Zhong Lee
so when will the price will be adjusted ? after today?
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KLSE Stock Market
grave doji be careful
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Yc Ooi
Hew according to my remisier should be tomorrow
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No Name
Klse, do u still keep ur Careplus?
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Hii Jacky
Yes, tmr will adjust
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Eddy Khoo
hah? adjust? it already adjusted yesterday. what else to adjust? u guys sure of what you are saying? is this your first time receiving bonus shares and warrants?
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韦小宝
Eddy... What platform are you using now?
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Yc Ooi
Eddy no platform yet adjust the price you buy...
U still see 1.xx avg buy price
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Eddy Khoo
if you purely referring to your CDS acct, of course it would reflect losses as you yet to receive the bonus shares and warrants. you should have your own tracking to know what is your cost price. no need to wait for your CDS account to adjust for u before u buy or sell.
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Eddy Khoo
simple calculation, number of holding u have on 13 Oct x 2 = your total holding now. use this and x the share price now. you should have the market value. with the market value minus your cost price and you should know your profit or losses. though u yet to receive your bonus shares and warrants. theoretically you can calculate this yourself
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Eddy Khoo
the key concern here is what would happen with esceramic price from today to 26 Oct? if it corrected, then both your warrants and bonus shares also would be in lower value on 26 Oct when they get listed for trading.
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Eddy Khoo
as for contra losses. it s just accounting only. let s say I bought 1 share lot esceramic at RM1.30 on 13 October. and today i sold it at Rm0.90, so theoretically I need to pay contra losses of rm1.30-rm0.90 = rm0.40. usually u only need to settle the contra losses within a week which would be 22 October . come 26 Oct, your account will be credited 1 warrants and 1 bonus share. for simple calculation, we just assume that on 26 Oct, esceramic remain at rm0.90.
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Eddy Khoo
so your total value on 26 October would be rm0.9(bonus shares)+ rm0.7(warrants). total rm1600 in ringgit terms. now since I made losses of rm400 due to contra loss, now I gain back rm1600. net gain is rm1200.
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Eddy Khoo
the risk now is what would happen until 26 Oct since I can't sell this bonus shares and warrants
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sean kua
因该可以卖吧bi和warrant其实都是我们自己的钱来的。。。。。。。根本就没有free啊。。。。。。。。你看那天1。38 bi后0。525 。。。。。都是我们母股换过去的。。。。。。
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Joseph Theam
@eddy, is it confirm the warrant price will be latest mother price - 0.2 when it listing on 26oct?
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Eddy Khoo
@Joseph, warrants always have this thing call premium. it doesn't necessarily must reflect the exact value. it can be higher or it could be lower depending on how the market value it.
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Joseph Theam
@eddy ok, is it the lower the exercise value the better? Means the warrant price will not have big gap with mother price, am i understand it correctly? haha
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Eddy Khoo
4 important factors to take note in warrants: exercise price, ratio, premium and expiry date. try to avoid warrant if you don't really understand it as it serves as double edge sword.
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vincent ong
how to adjust
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