Tatami Usuka's comment on SUPERMX

Tatami Usuka · 2020-05-29T17:53:46+08:00

Some one share yesterday in I3 regarding this C88. This seem you dont really know how to calculate call warrant. Okay. Let using C88 as an example. Ex.value 2.65 Ex.ratio 4.2:1 Today C88 price 2.48 (28.5.2020)

zhixuan&zhihan

Premium 最少少过10％才安全吧。c84, c86 premium 不高也有交易量。比较OK

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Joey Lim

christine c75应该会上很多人买没有人卖而且topglov现在有出口罩

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Joey Lim

rey 其实我只是拿c88和c90比较所以c88目前安全一点

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Joey Lim

当然premium越低越安全

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Aida Yeo

為什麼C88 拉屎？這里有經驗豐富的股神解釋一下嗎？

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Christine Ng

冰心是啦我看到topmask 星期五直接panic buy....topglove 前景应该会很好~~~

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Joey Lim

所以我现在其实只看topglove ,harta warrant 其实也不错 premium不会太高

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Chong Louis

c88的价格比其他的c来的贵些，而且之前被炒了许多所以跌下来是很正常的，买在高价的就有的在耐心等待妈妈价跑的更加远了

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zhixuan&zhihan

其实大家有没有去了解，若是公司宣布分红股，warrant 会怎样跑呢？最后自己去了解。股价越高越大机会宣布分红股

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Christine Ng

Rey 如果分红股， warrant 会怎样？我是新手真的不知道这些~~~

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Kok Cong

think from banker side..

those premium low issuer will lost and need to pay u at the end of maturity date.

banker is happier because they doesn't do anything u guys help blow his warrant and they sapu at lower price

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zhixuan&zhihan

若是1-1分红股，母股价砍半。warrant 的exercise price 没换，这个会不会很吓人。大家自己去Google 比较安全。但是4大天王的老大老二比较有可能分红股

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zhixuan&zhihan

要记得这call warrant 跟公司没半毛钱关系

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Miiike L

waaa. 你们勇气可嘉。不会算call warrant 也买啊。c88 太高了跑太前面了

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You 优

c88 现在跌下来了，可以进吗？

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Joey Lim

rey 但是分股 exercise value是会更改的只是maturity date那些不会变动我是有问过那些有玩warrant的人

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Christine Ng

上次我朋友玩notion的warrant, exercise value 有更改……

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Christine Ng

要去哪里可以找到这些资料？

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Alvan Chua

那个c90的warrant是怎么算的，怎么感觉上很贵这样，上不去

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Joey Lim

我是有去上warrant的课

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Joey Lim

alvan 看premium%就知道了

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Alvan Chua

那么死翘翘了，完蛋了…

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Christine Ng

冰心 warrant 一天上下有没有limit 的？像仙股limit up是 30cents...

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Joey Lim

早上30% ,下午30%

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Christine Ng

刺激。。。。。30% 再 30%。。。要祈祷了

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Chong Louis

超过一元的股就是30%up and down，不过warrant是分两次

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Chong Louis

Christine 你买很多在c88吗？

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Christine Ng

不多~~~~ 我不敢买多~~

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Chong Louis

这样就还好，风险要控制好

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Joey Lim

c88其实还可以玩只是不要all in 要风险管理

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Chong Louis

冰心这个要等其他的c都贵了c88就还有机会

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Tatami Usuka

@冰心，请问你知道什么时候exercise value 才会变吗？

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Joey Lim

等c88跌到一定的价格 premium就会拉低到时很有可能会反弹我是这么觉得哈哈新手的意见

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6666 6

什么鬼C88还可以玩
为什么不了解不会的还要这样误导
看了真的很无言

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Joey Lim

通常bonus issue吧

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Tatami Usuka

对。那请问bonus issues 后，母股价格会如何？

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耀铭王

C88 什么价格才合理？

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Joey Lim

问melvin吧我其实也刚玩他意见比较多哈哈

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Chong Louis

跌到1元以下，不过前提是妈妈股要跌的厉害

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Christine Ng

Wah 不要叻……我怕怕……

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Alvan Chua

C88都那么惨了，c90不是更加惨，我的妈呀

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Fakrul Rahimi

C88 what should i do, cut or hold. Need help from U all

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Tatami Usuka

我们说简单的吧，如果bonus issues 1股the 给1股的话,股数是不是增加了一倍啊？就是如果现在整个公司只有100股，我现在每1股给你一股，那整个公司是不是变成有200股了呢？好本来1股RM1,现在多了100股，股价没变。那是不是1股变成RM0.5啊？所以你看到为什么exercise value变了？这个是我的了解啦。我也不是很清楚exercise value 还有什么情况可以变。我只知道母股数目变了，exercise value就会变。如果可以随随变变改变，那Call warrant永远都只有银行赢了咯。

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Tatami Usuka

@Fakrul no one can help you. if we ask you to cut. Later it up, then you will scold us. haha. if ask you don't cut, later drop more we kenal scold again. So the only way is do the calculation and consider your own risk.

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Fakrul Rahimi

Haha. Ok. Tatami

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Miiike L

if c88 u buy at rm1.51. breakeven at RM8.99

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Miiike L

899 still playable. but those who buy RM 2.5....im speechless

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You 优

how about c90 buy at 1.55 ,break even at which price

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Miiike L

breakeven 10.70

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You 优

but all other warrant value oso fly faster than mother share

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Tatami Usuka

@you yes. is normal for warrant fly higher then mother. So is all by your risk. You just need the calculation to tell you how big is your risk. Then is depend on your able to accept the risk or not.

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Christine Ng

c88 horrible day.....fast go recharge, tmrw fly yea please ~

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Tatami Usuka

@cheistine only if mother have power. Else it won't go. Now mother seem like cooling already. This mo TG and comfort result out. Many guess TG will give bonus issue or split. So mostly will play this two counter ba this month.

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Christine Ng

Yaya. My main target is on TG! Pray that supermax move up......

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Alvan Chua

Christine,趁还来得及，MATG

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Alvan Chua

Math有卖很多种手套，N95口罩，呼吸器，只有他的股价还没飞，可是感觉上要上了…坐稳稳

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Christine Ng

Alvan买了哈哈……………

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Tay Ming Zhe

看premium就可以了。permium多少就是貴多少%

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Alvan Chua

美美啦，哈哈哈，恭喜你

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Christine Ng

大家一起赚！嘻嘻嘻………

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Christine Ng

Mingzhe 那个premium 是不是会一直随着价钱变的？

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耀铭王

那个多个为什么偏偏这个c88跌那么厉害？看不懂情况……

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Chong Louis

因为每个恐慌买到太贵所以cut lose

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Christine Ng

panic sell 是吗？连续掉掉掉………

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Joey Lim

director buy back share , tomorrow will up?

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耀铭王

可能有人担心派bonus issue 的关系

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Loo Ken

你们知道玩cw ,你的对手是谁吗？是那些经验丰富的banker 啊。菜鸟怎样可以嬴他们啊

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Xing Zaii

如果是初学者真的不建议玩涡轮我研究两年到现在不敢动涡轮。cw 是大鳄鱼扫钱的，很恐怖.....

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zoey tai

明天c88 会升会吗??

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zhixuan&zhihan

Zoey 明天C88 应该可以了，明天轮到c90深深的回调了，若是母股没有上个10％c90多数掉

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庸人

买c88在2.5的，母价必须大约9.06才能平衡。买在低倒是不用担心。希望明天母价会起

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zoey tai

谢谢各位大神，第一次买warrant ..

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Tiam Hie Wong

有你们这样说c88，我算是吃了一颗定心丸，我还没cut loss

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lien peng

c88 明天会发弹.......

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Tiam Hie Wong

明天再不发弹，我要发浪了

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Rui Ming

c89 also ok

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Tiam Hie Wong

我在20楼，，，，，，，，晕

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Raymond Wai Mun Chua

我在楼上玩玩先不急等烟花

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qiu xuanmiao

新手，想问大家c88在几楼？

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Tiam Hie Wong

Raymond chua你在几楼？

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Tiam Hie Wong

你多少价买进的？cut loss?

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Chong Louis

这市场就是这样故来个大洗牌，把人洗出去

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Raymond Wai Mun Chua

tiam at level 2 waiting to explode still sleeping nw in the morning haha

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Tatami Usuka

Reason of drop, bank cap for margin account for all glove counter. so those who chance high and using margin to play might get margin call and need to sell it settle the payment.

Maybank IB Share Margin Valuation (Newly Revised)
as at 2nd June 2020

Comfort @ RM2.29 ; closed @ RM4.20
Harta @ RM8.97 ; closed @ RM8.97
Kossan @ RM7.87 ; closed @ RM9.13
Supermx @ RM3.38 ; closed @ RM7.95
Topglov @ RM9.41 ; closed @ RM15.54

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耀铭王

c88 who had hold ？？？

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Chong Louis

sold out turn to c91

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耀铭王

Tuesday i oso cut lose ，lose too much ☹️now turn tg warrant

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Tatami Usuka

c88 don't play la. too high risk. if want play then take the risk. if lost let it be. if win congratulations.

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耀铭王

上星期c88 给我很好的报酬，它跌了几天贪心进回去了，赚的全部给回他，伤心

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Ray Looi

Same here C-91

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Desmond To

Anyone still holding c91 now ?

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Bryan Mic

C90 more risk than C88 c91 now . C88 the premium is lower now

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Joey Lim

agree wif bryan

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耀铭王

我只知道怎样算exercise value 和 ratio ， premiun 要怎样看？

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Joey Lim

apps可以看premium %的

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Bak Bak

See exercise value buy.. Dont buy based on premium.. Exercise value is more important

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Joey Lim

bt i think exercise value will reflected in premium, if high exercise value sure the premium will increase

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Bryan Mic

COST =(CW Price X Exercise Ratio )+Exercise Price

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Joey Lim

yuppp so premium have already take exercise value into account

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Bryan Mic

Yes. Premium meaning how expensive buy on the wa. Because of leverage so below 15 % consider ok .

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