Jack Sparrow's comment on GENTING. All Comments

Jack Sparrow
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No need wait right issue, soon can buy the 1.30 price in klse alrd
Yang Yang
你说对要稀释后回购,可是他年事已高!很多事情控制不到位了,他的儿子也不是省油的灯!儿子都有故事的,所以未来接班人都是问题
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Eddy Khoo
don't be over confident that the rights issue will go thru. at any time the management can cancel it citing an unfavorable market. prior before that they may have acquired 3-4% from open market at low price.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Eddy, they can’t buy more than 2%, or else trigger MGO
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Yang Yang
我是完全对他们没信心,所以才会一直强调债务怎么还?他给答案了,借贷来还!哈哈…
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sabrina lim
Chance of lifetime Juz close eye buy
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cheng
Cheapskate if the mgmt cancel the rights issue at a later date, Eddy. Most likely it will go through due to the huge discount to TERP :)
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cheng
The rights issue is expected to complete by q1'27. If mgmt initiate a second rights issue or pp thereafter instead of dispose non core assets assuming RWLV, RWS and RWNYC recovery phase stalls, market will sell it down again and will go below 1.00
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Raymond Fah
用你们的钱来还债。。。
他的钱就吃利息。。。
买马股。。。买难受。。。买香菇
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Kyory Lau
Wow.. 很久没回来看了. Cheng RWLS, Empire, Miami 地, Egypt gaming 等如果能卖是最好. 但是我不觉得他们想卖, 尤其是 RWLS for branding and world appearance. 现在不赚钱也无法能卖到好价格!

其实如果他们只是集中在大马, 新加坡,纽约和英国因该不错的. 但是看来他们什么都想要也做不好才死!
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Eddy Khoo
don't you think this is a properly timed maneuver by the boss? critical window for taurx announcement, Dec timeline for the takeover offer and also Q3 results in Nov. all just merely for a rm800 mil debt pare down while wiping off rm2 bil market capital in gent alone. yet to factor genm market capital.
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Eddy Khoo
I don't believe it just purely a simple right issue. more like looking at it as an integrated valuation-suppression and capital-reorganization mechanism from the cheapskate boss.
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cheng
welcome back, kyory :) US assets, rws and rwg (malaysia) net book value for the land & resorts is at ~38bil from the total 47bil. RWLV, RWS, RWNYC and RWG will be core assets for the leisure and hospitality segment.
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cheng
peak season/summer holiday in terms of tourist arrivals in SG and US for Q3 performance. Will be interesting to see how RWS, RWLV and RWNYC are doing.
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Raymond Fah
新加坡美国就算赚钱
也是不会拿回来啦!
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Eddy Khoo
can't wait what s the boss would do to achieve his goal of delisting GENM at all cost.
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cheng
the first trigger will be the 75% threshold / 25% public shareholding spread requirements for GenM
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
LKT has said that it’s not their intention to privatise GenM during AGM
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Eddy Khoo
he also said he s the warren buffet of Asia..do u believe him? take his words like a pinch of salt.
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Kyory Lau
Lol.. warren buffet of Asia to con shareholders..
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cheng
sell non-core assets as we discussed yesterday :) Not surprising there are doubts on the actual purpose for the 1.25bil rights issue :) and the boss will contribute slightly more than 500mil into the 1.25bil bucket. Likely to see some shareholding changes once the rights issue exercise is completed.
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teikchye kee
@Kyory Lau betrayed us...hahaha
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Kyory Lau
Uncle you are not belong to here.. you are glove members.. haha.. now all goes for US stocks liao.. still in KLSE
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Eddy Khoo
no need investment bank or analysts to tell us. we also know that it needs to sell assets to pare down debts. however if look back the past 3 years, Genting boss refused to sell assets even though there were some MOUs and arrangements of selling Miami Land and Catskill which both also got cancelled by Genting.
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cheng
consolidated cash and non cash assets ~100bil assuming its unrestricted. 18bil cash, 47bil net book value of physical properties held while total debt at 45bil. 1.25bil rights issue which will help to save interest of 40mil to 60mil in the next 12 months at the back of 25% to 30% discount to TERP price :)
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Vin Vin
I believe share price won't move much until RI is completed
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cheng
Seems to stabilise now though I was expecting it to fall into 25% to 30% from Friday closing price. The next price movement will be during price fixing, ex date.
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Eddy Khoo
no need to wait RI completed but after price fixing.
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Eddy Khoo
cheng, can't use last Friday price as reference price as gent share price has fallen a lot this year.
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cheng
Announcement effect, Eddy :)
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Vin Vin
what if RI price fixed but mother sudden shoot up :)
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cheng
Price fixing / ex date effect, Vin :)
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Vin Vin
ok understood! thx ! pity for those who bought at RM3-4
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cheng
Yeah. And the boss mentioned it clearly 25% to 30% discount to TERP on a full subscription basis. Market reacts accordingly.
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PANORAMA
Unable to get the valuation for sale of assets. If they can get the valuation, I am sure they will even divest GenS.
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Vin Vin
no choice.
need to take the RI to average my price... hope In the future..can hit up to RM3 :)
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Eddy Khoo
I'm waiting for today sbb announcement again on genm. the boss is slowly acquiring genm at low price using sbb
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Vin Vin
Eddy any idea sbb on genm ? possible another privatise ?
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cheng
If it happens, GenM will announce not meeting 25% public shareholding spread.
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Vin Vin
Cant imagine genting drop more than 60% in 1 year plus
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
GB has no financial power to privatise GenM now la
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cheng
Depending on how badly the boss wants to list the US assets. GenM privatisation will have to be completed to make it easier for restructuring into the new entity.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
What’s the other options for the boss to list the US assets without GenM privatisation?
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Kyory Lau
这个 Dato' Sri Tan Kong Han 卖的多跌得多. 亏不少.. hehe
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teikchye kee
@Kyory Lau...u whr can loss money ppl. u r think tank for Genting. U been mths in USA stocks. Smart crocs...hahaha
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cheng
Not sure about other options but there's one side door way which is through SPAC merger but unlikely for the boss to go that route. Another route is how MI list its SMBU segment in Singapore but it will be more complicated for Genting bcos RWLV is parked under Gent, RWLV LLC while the rest of the US assets are parked under GenM. The company structure is complicated in layers. RWNYC new casino license plus bil dollar expansion story will be a more compelling story for listing in the US rather than RWLV recovery story or Catskills/Hudson Valley/Bimini Resort:)
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teikchye kee
Sell this Genting to Vincent Tan better...hahaha
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Jack Sparrow
To all sifu here. Want to ask as the right issue price is fix by 25% average down... Will it based on the 1.50 x- 25% down?? Or based on earlier 1.90 x25% down??
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teikchye kee
I heard 1.30 right issue...hahaha
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cheng
The Proposed Rights Issue is subject to the following approvals/consents being obtained from: (i) Bursa Securities for the listing of and quotation for the Rights Shares to be issued pursuant to the Proposed Rights Issue on the Main Market of Bursa Securities; (ii) shareholders of GENT at an extraordinary general meeting to be convened; and (iii) any other regulatory authorities and/or parties, if required
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cheng
its the rights issue announcement effect now aka the stock price behavior / reaction upon rights issue announcement :) The Board intends to fix the Issue Price at a discount ranging between twenty five% to thirty% to the TERP based on the five-day VWAP of GENT Shares preceding the Price Fixing Date (rounded to the nearest whole sen). The theoretical ex-rights price (“TERP”) of GENT Shares based on the five-day volume weighted average price (“VWAP”) of GENT Shares preceding the Price-Fixing Date. The issue price of the Rights Shares (“Issue Price”), entitlement basis and entitlement date (“Entitlement Date”) for the Proposed Rights Issue have not been determined at this juncture and will only be determined and announced by the Board closer to the implementation of the Proposed Rights Issue in order to provide flexibility to the Board.
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Lim Zi Yen
Sekarang 1.41..hari turun lagi sampai 1.30.
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Daniel Tan
Right issue 1.300 is a Big Trap... the price confirm will be lower than Right issue...
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PANORAMA
Normal adverse reactions as the rights issue solely for loan repayments and working capital instead of positive expansion plan. TERP could be very low based on 5-day VWAP Price Fixing. In addition to this rights issue, they will still need to pare down on their borrowings via non core asset sales as soon as possible in order to rollover their existing short term borrowings.
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Lim Zi Yen
1.39. harga betul.iapa kata 1.42.
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Siew Hock Huang
prices can go up and down.No body can predict the weather what more.the market.? if a sifu can predict the prices, why tell others?Be quiet and buy and sell and make money yourself!So smart , can be rich! NEVER believe in Sifu!
So much guess work. Full
of gas!!!!
Any fool can give his opinion.
Analyst, soothsayer. magician! All sort of characters, GASBAGS
Just try your luck! who knows? lucky pick!
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Siew Hock Huang
Just try!if your luck isgood, you get something! if unluckyjust too bad! Don't depend on others!

They are just like you!
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Siew Hock Huang
All are looking for food just like you and me!!!!
cari makan!
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Siew Hock Huang
No sifu,,please! if so smart, why tell the world?
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Eddy Khoo
if the terp price is too low, it would be hard to do the RI as more right shares need to be offered.
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cheng
only the boss knows the intention of making such an announcement at this juncture - full subscription basis at such discount. And the boss made it a full subscription basis - someone else will buy the rights renounced by shareholders.
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Legendary Uncle Wong
Uncle see this Siew Hock Huang must be a newbie. Look at all the true superinvestors and even traders they share their picks and knowledge freely sharing does not diminish our returns one look and Uncle already know this Siew has a scarcity mindset like all the failed traders where they think only in terms of win-lose.

Hope all Uncle followers learnt something today how u think shapes your investment decisions n if follow the Legendary Uncle Wong u too can be a superinvestor it is free forever
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cheng
Bursa query on the huge discount and the reply from Gent - discount is intended to enhance the attractiveness of
the Rights Shares, encourage shareholder participation, reward Entitled Shareholders for their
continuous support of the Company, facilitate a higher subscription level and improve certainty
of raising the Intended Gross Proceeds.
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cheng
Announcement day effect done deal. Price fixing/ex date effect yet to be seen; whether similar scale of upside
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Vin Vin
Cheng , what does it mean ??
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cheng
Nothing new from the mgmt's response to Bursa, Vin. Standard answers.
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Vin Vin
ok thanks.. I thought right issue was cancelled lol
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PANORAMA
Expect lower price Post Rights issue based on the huge discount (25-30%) set.
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Mj Manila
Useless to stuck money this counter will took very very very ling time to recover. Be prepare to stuck money for long time which increase the risk factor due to Low revenue growth but high speed debt growth . Meaning Low and long time for return but high risk .
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Eddy Khoo
the boss sapu cheap shares.
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cheng
There you go, Eddy :) someone benefitted from the announcement day effect :)
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Eddy Khoo
probably he would control over 50% without needing to offer MGO thru the RI. if the price fixing happens before the good news of taurx approval or Q3 promising results, the boss would earn a lot from the rights.
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Vin Vin
Why boss dont want to wait right issue only buy ?? possible right issue cancel?
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cheng
Rights issue will still proceed most likely, Vin. It makes no difference to the short term debt but it's interest free funding and boss gets to load up more shares :)
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cheng
Probably we should expect to see more actions from Genting New York LLC the commercial gaming license holder for RWNYC. The funding for the 5bil expansion kinda secured after all. https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/regulatory/article/-/view/type/HTML/id/3591376
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Vin Vin
I believe Lim family this week will non stop buying genting share ... hope some good news after right issue ... and can help my average price lower too
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cheng
The Undertaking Shareholders have confirmed that the subscription for their respective entitlements of the Rights Shares pursuant to their Undertakings, will not give rise to any mandatory take-over offer obligation under the Malaysian Code on Take-overs and Mergers, 2016 (“Code”) and the Rules on Take-overs, Mergers and Compulsory Acquisitions (“Rules”), including any amendment that may be made from time to time and any re-enactment thereof, immediately after the completion of the Proposed Rights Issue. They further undertake to observe and ensure compliance with the provisions of the Code and the Rules (including any amendment that may be made from time to time and any re-enactment thereof) and will seek the necessary exemptions from the Securities Commission Malaysia from undertaking such mandatory take-over offer, if required.
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cheng
extracted the above statement from the rights issue document and seems that the boss wanted to increase his Gent's shareholding without triggering MGO which is driven by the creeping rule - acquiring by more than 2% in 6 months. Hence, the boss will keep his acquisition to a max of 2% every 6 months for now until the completion of the rights issue.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
How does this matter Cheng?
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cheng
the excess rights, daniel. the boss is buying from open market currently and if the boss is also applying for the excess rights, it may trigger the creeping 2% rule. The statement - will seek the necessary exemptions from the Securities Commission Malaysia from undertaking such mandatory take-over offer, if required - means that the boss can increase beyond 2% during the rights issue period :)
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cheng
for now, Gent is still far away from 75% threshold but GenM is pretty close which is less than 2% creeping rule.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Thanks for the clarification Cheng
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Eddy Khoo
his intentions are obvious:
1. to avoid MGO but at the same time to increase his holdings
2. to pay the minimal price to acquire more shares for controls
3. to use the RI as a tactical move to achieve the above. all those pare down debts etc are just standard scripts
4. by controlling 50% and above of gent, he would be in absolute control for more decisions and plan next
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Eddy Khoo
to achieve these, he willing to spend around rm300 mil (estimated) to cover his margin call, another rm600 mil for the RI and lastly bearing with the total market capital losses of rm4 bil ++ for both Genm and Gent combined.
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Eddy Khoo
Cheng, for genm, the boss could use SBB to creep to 75% as outstanding shares could be reduced if those treasury share get cancelled or paid out as dividends.
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PANORAMA
Market losses will be “temporary”. Genting Group needs to defend their lowest investment grade rating at all cost. Rights issue (Undertaking by major Shareholders and fresh capital injections) necessary as the additional Capital injections might ensure no rating downgrade to Junk status.
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cheng
that's right Eddy. the boss has the money, time and resources to accomplish what he wants while shareholders are dealing with emotional sunk cost and opportunity cost driven by the market pricing.
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PANORAMA
If have patience to wait it out until Post Rights issue pricing, I will also consider All In with spare cash despite not happy with their treatment of shareholders.
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cheng
You are welcome, daniel :) The ex date effect, panorama :)
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PANORAMA
Buying in aggressively now amidst all the uncertainties is akin to coming at it like casino gamblers. Substantial Shareholders pledged shares position still at reasonable level and will definitely be even lower risks Post Rights Issue.
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Eddy Khoo
whether we agree or not, all these are properly timed now. it should have been executed earlier this year if genm was successfully delisted in Dec 2025 but it wasn't and that delayed their plan for US IPO to raise the fund for NY casino development. Now with both GenM and Gent needing to bear such a massive capital injection, all the downgrade ratings came which raised the borrowing cost.
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Eddy Khoo
4 majors announcements would come by Dec,
1. decision on taurx
2. new takeover offer for GenM
3. full Q3 results from NY
4. full Q3 results from SG after all the opening of new attractions and hotels. remember that they have mentioned significantly better June in their last QR. so whether that would further improve and reflected in July, Aug and Sept.
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Yang Yang
改善没用…债务怎么还才是重点,这样才能吸引投资者!
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Eddy Khoo
yang yang that would be the US IPO to raise fund and pare down debts.
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Yang Yang
如果能够有还债务的计划,公司业绩又有盈利…这样才能够对公司才有好处!目前看不到这些情况
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Vin Vin
let's see this few weeks...Boss still got increase his stake in genting or not ...
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cheng
and q3 performance - leisure and hospitality segment coupled with capex/investment movements.
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Vin Vin
Cheng base on the current price 1.43.... RI prices will around RM1-1.10 ?
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cheng
Will have to wait for the price fixing announcement, Vin. Too early to say now as the rights issue proposal has to go through approvals first. The boss took the opportunity to buy the dip.
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