Admiral Adama's comment on D&O. All Comments

Admiral Adama
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w t f inventory impairment rm250mil!!! 这几年风光时赚到的钱就这样一次过全部打水漂了。。。
cheng
to write-off 250mil inventories means the semi-finished, finished goods and possible raw materials are no longer needed by the automotive industry. Brutal.
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Remmy Jr
Habislah..... kena game by this counter kaw2.
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Green LT
It means to off-set all profit from 2021-2025/Q3. 这几年白干了,一夜回到解放前。如果EPF 明天丢票,就go go.com 了。 I cancelled all my buy setting for 1.00, 0.90 & 0.80.
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Kim Hock Goh
这叫做一鋪清袋,輸得一乾二淨。。。
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cheng
no doubt the mgmt stressed that its non cash adjustment but the real question is whether its a one-off temporary over production / poor demand or it is a structural change where its current product line ups are no longer in demand?
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Daniel
Absolutely crazy. A material RM250m inventories impairment in one quarter :-|
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Kim Hock Goh
in accounting terms, impairments are charged into profit and loss. It has to be recognized sooner or later. Cannot escape. Meaning that the profits earned last time, might not even be a profit, it could be a loss. This is bad.
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Green LT
5 years inventory sweep under carpet, now got to write off because “paper can’t cover the fire”. 250mil is 1 qtr sales and dump to tong sampah. Management team is rubbish.
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Restia
這個股的業績炸彈真恐怖,沒什麼徵兆,說爆就爆,要翻一下以前的財報,看可不可以找出什麼端倪。
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cheng
probably a change in the demand for Asia segment which has the highest segment assets. Can't be from Europe or North America. Asia segment means demand from China probably; resulting in the write-off of inventories.
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Daniel
Without the RM250m impairments, total inventories would have been ~ 7.5 months of stockholdings in relation to revenue. Baffling:-|
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Admiral Adama
now i look back the balance sheet since 2023, i noticed that the inventories were bloated consistently althought the revenue remains consistently flat. If i put some context of the ev industry in last 2-3 years to the numbers then it is quite a big red flag...

of course, it is just my hindsight aka horse behind a cannon haha....
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cheng
China says Veni, Vidi, Vici - gloves, automotive, petrochem, solar, EV and batteries, and soon will be consumer electronics; made in China.
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Daniel
Precisely, Cheng. Any products that can be Made In China will be totally dominated and conquered by them in due course.
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Admiral Adama
consumer electronics already long gone...
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Admiral Adama
China has a death touch instead of midas touch. So whatever industry they touch, u run like hell...
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Gerbilg Rat
Can this be a corporate fraud that should be investigated?
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cheng
Ooh consumer electronics also kaput :o No wonder US can't sit still.
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cheng
China in control of rare earth. Will semiconductor be conquered by China too?
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Daniel
Prices quoted for consumer electronics products by China companies are already lower than our EMS companies “cost”. Once previous long term OEM contracts due for price re-negotiations, it will be cost down & margin compression (if any).
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cheng
Thanks for the heads up, Daniel :)
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Green LT
Gerbilg-I also strongly suspect corporate fraud, also related to financial data integrity. What the hell in business write off 250mil in one lump sum? What if External auditor suspect the financial integrity and raise concern on the business ethic? Same case like SD? ……????
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Admiral Adama
the moment china manage to manufacture advance node chip without depending on tech from US and its ally, then semicon industry is gone.
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cheng
Cannot imagine the impact to Nasdaq/S&P500 listed stocks for industries conquered by China.
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Gerbilg Rat
Green LT agreed. I still remember a lot of YouTubers cover it as well as some gurus, share that they have a lot of business from B*W etc… after the share hit all time high, suddenly they all seems know how to sell all right around at the top. It was a 10 baggers back then..
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Restia
The D/E ratio and Current ratio is become terrible after the RM250m impairment in current asset.

2025Q2 D/E Ratio = 0.81 Current Ratio = 1.73
2025Q3 D/E Ratio = 1.03 Current Ratio = 1.33

Is it possible that they inflated the inventory to make the balance sheet look better?
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Jaredgwee
Future 3-5 yrs, semiconductors microchip will collapse just matter of time , 中国是用整个国家能力大量投入资金在发展晶片,迟些晶片都是白菜价,我不会买入任何科技股迟早被中国打爆
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Green LT
If you were the company boss, will you agree to write off 1 qtr sale for inventory?
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Jaredgwee
Maybe auditor already question or highlight this issue so can't cover no way to hide
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Daniel
As what Sifus Cheng & Adama correctly pointed out, “China has a death touch instead of midas touch. So whatever industry they touch, u run like hell” ie. “VENI VIDI VICI “
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Admiral Adama
relaxlah...250mil write off is just a child's play in comparison when mygg write off theirs.
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Restia
Jaredgwee,Yes, the Chinese government wants certain industries in its own hands, not because these industries are highly profitable, but because they are essential to the country's national strategy.

When they begin to make massive deployments in certain sectors, a large amount of capital floods into these industries. Then, in an effort to grab market share, they drastically drive down prices. The result is often that these industries become severely damaged, leading to a sharp drop in the overall profit margin for the entire sector.

as investor , we better run when we see them coming.
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Jaredgwee
Restia, I had been search and read a lot article regarding China massive invest in semiconductors sector... Power of 红色革命, Malaysia semiconductors is half water mostly focus on semiconductors packaging and testing only, China is full set full throttle another 3-5 yrs 3-5nm massive production nvidia, Intel, tsmc, AMD all GG
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cheng
I am not sifu, Daniel. Just sharing opinions and learning from others. Mygg and ptrans abang adik rolling in the deep style, Adama. It's legal to do so :)
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来都来了
today standby limit down
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Green LT
It won’t limit down, but below 1.00 for sure. Unless it is involve in financial ethical issue.
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Ong King
突然出现了很多guru
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来都来了
we want see limit down shows
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Admiral Adama
i bet it wont limit down because bursa retailers tend to ignore all kind of impairment because it is just an one off deduction and no "cash loss".
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Kim Hock Goh
Of course no cask losses because cash accounting is not permitted in public listed companies. If a bank made RM 100m profit, it doesn't mean they gain RM100m cash. All entries are based on accrual accounting. A loss is a loss in the. A profit is a a profit. One must know how to differentiate between a profit and loss statement and a cash flow statement.
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来都来了
EPF sure short they very realistic..unless is bank /Tenaga ..too big to failed
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Admiral Adama
I meant no cash flow is involved despite the huge loss.
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来都来了
tauke made account no pretty got reason..to support task bot manipulation
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Simks Sim
Road to Amsterdam,阿姆斯特丹之旅。
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Daniel
Stock holdings still high at 136 days despite the huge RM250m impairments. Will a further impairment of inventories be required by the external auditors for Financial Year Ending 31/12/2025 ?
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HK NGUI
I think the CEO need to get fire
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Simks Sim
这股退回去3,5毛也不为过。
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HK NGUI
The management are sleeping team
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来都来了
today sure can limit down
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HK NGUI
long term investment in bursa Malaysia is not working, haha
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路人
非现金亏损来的,敢不敢加码捞底?
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HK NGUI
Even is non cash loss, but company value has drop, otherwise they have new capital pump in
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Daniel
The RM250m inventories impairment in one quarter is definitely staggering in relation to the quarterly revenue, profitability and total inventories. Explanations in B1 as stated in the QR insufficient as the exact reasons (eg. loss of major customers orders, quality issue, over production etc.) ought to be disclosed in view of such significant amount involved.
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Admiral Adama
所谓的“非现金亏损”只是这季没亏掉现金,但之前这笔用来买货的钱的的确确是打水漂了。。。
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Daniel
Exactly. In real terms, it is still a significant loss. If these inventories need not be impaired, they can be sold off and the profit (cash) derived can be cash dividends to shareholders. Just like impairment on receivables (bad debts).
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来都来了
below 10c console
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JH
从哪里炒上去,最终都回到原点
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Admiral Adama
not all none cash losses are equal. The context for the losses is important.
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cheng
just wondering any shareholder that has been following its quarterly performance over the last one to two years? any findings of inventories creeping up while revenue drop that could have led to the impairment this qtr? And another element to watch for is receivables. revenue dropped >> more than receivables - slower collection of receivables and could ended up with ECL/impairment in the future too.
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来都来了
most bursa counter manipulated by bot only no much real trader
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Simks Sim
如果说机械折旧减值可以理解,如果是货存减值是指之前的存货过时已经没有价值必须销毁吗?这样的减值等同割韭菜。
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路人
ceb也是做亏损然后换新赛道
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Green LT
货存减值都把2021-2025/Q3 的利盈减完了。而且,公司Cash Flow 也进入了危险水平。我想公司不久就会向银行贷款了,到时候股价会再跌一波。
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来都来了
会不会突然间pn17...
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Green LT
不会PN17啦! 必须再看看接下来2个季度的QR.
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来都来了
够力 要丢一个月了。。。
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HK NGUI
This stock cash flow always be negative since 2020
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Green LT
1.00上方有天量的套牢盘,想冲破1.00难如登天。 这次EPF 应该会减倉5%以下。这是人为的災难,真的不明白为什么突然有250mil stock written off, 是公司之前有意隐瞒?或是欺骗?OMG…business ethic and integrity issue?
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Daniel
Let’s not speculate but leave it to the external auditors to verify accordingly. Audit process (interim) for FYE might already be in progress and will definitely be Key Audit Matters (Inventories & Impairments) to be addressed by the external auditors accordingly.
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Kim Hock Goh
@GreenLT 你说得对。相信是有意隱瞞
This kind of problem has long been a Bursa issue. It doesn't happen today. Normally manufacturing companies are taking advantage of this loophole in the law whereby they are not obligated to do impairment evaluation each year. I think Bursa Malaysia should come out with a better measure to protect the small shareholders.
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cheng
I am not sure the following information is true and whether this could be the culprit. I do not have any D&O shares and just sharing what I just found out. Shareholders can seek clarification with investor relations to validate whether this is true as it is not reported in the local media too. https://pressat.co.uk/releases/nichia-successful-in-recalling-dominant-leds-from-distributor-as-result-of-patent-infringement-lawsuit-72b26d5718eee89257eeb53484df51ce/
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Francis Ung
Still Cash rich company , write off only on paper , which the inventory impossible make money for company , 0.92 still can hold it , wait it bound back
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HK NGUI
I think if Bursa interfere and control the trading market, KLCI would not be a free market, foreign investor would not like it, bursa stock price would drop as well. I think we dont be inspector 1st, let the market do the job, eventhough there is a fraud, the time external auditor check it and acknowledge is already too late, right?
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来都来了
haven't limit down.. afternoon dump again
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cheng
If it is patent infringement, inventory write-off is just the beginning. Raises lots of questions moving forward - (1) what is the breakdown of the receivables account for the disputed products? It will most likely be impaired. (2) any impact to the revenue revognised previously which may have to be reversed back? (3) what is the revenue contribution for the disputed products on the total revenue? That will be the future revenue loss unless D&O can replace it with other products?
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Daniel
This is serious if the inventories impairment is due to patent infringement by Dominant Opto Technologies Sdn. Bhd. (Subsidiary of D&O). However, patent infringement or legal claims will need to be announced via BursaLink.
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Admiral Adama
As a bursa retailer, we dont need to guess what really happened because we will always be the last one to know the facts. So just stay away from those strong downtrend stocks. It will save u a lot of headache if u follow this rule in your investment decision.

Why is that so? Because money does not lie, people do. Hence the market always know more than u do. Someone out there always know something u dont.
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Admiral Adama
like i always say, 阿婆跑得快一定有古怪。。。
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来都来了
it's just a games..if look at chart already got some clue
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Simks Sim
马股这种妖股最多,当年的恒源,疫情的手套,震科到帝与鸿,比比皆是,海水退潮了,谁没穿裤子,一目了然。
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Daniel
Good advice, AA. Avoid all speculative counters or “red flags” counters. Also, need to scrutinise all the relevant QR figures in P&L (Sales & COGS) and Balance Sheet (Inventories, Receivables, Other Receivables, Borrowings etc.) for any”red flags” indicators prior to buying any shares :-)
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来都来了
short to 1c then console pp esos
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cheng
Nichia Japan officially files the patent lawsuit in early Oct 2024, won the case in Mar'25 and successfully pushed for product recall in May. https://www.nichia.co.jp/en/newsroom/patent.html
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Admiral Adama
也不算是妖股啦,毕竟站在风口上连猪都会飞。所以一旦风停了,猪自然就掉下来了。

成也风云,败也风云。。。
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cheng
If it is in US, we will probably see Class Action lawsuits against the public listed company for those experiencing losses :)
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路人
是不是上个季度趁0关税先压下减值拨备炒一下,炒熟了留现在才报?
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来都来了
all Q limit down... no more mercy
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Green LT
Cheng-it means company R&D “Jia Sai”, copy Nichia product design. This reflect company don’t have expertise and leading tech in automotive intense competition. Sooner, company will loosing ground and serious deterioration in business performance. A pathetic ending for D&O.
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cheng
not sure what is R&D "Jia Sai", green. the disputed products seems to be from SpicePlus and Nagajo family. https://www.dominant-semi.com/index.php?type=datasheetcat
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Green LT
Follow accounting standard, management SHOULD periodically allocate “inventory depreciation value” to report in P&L. This is prevent the “time bomb” explode. Either management is “sleeping” or “hiding” for shareholder, the internal auditor also “diam-diam”.
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来都来了
today can limit down ?
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cheng
you can seek clarification from investor relations if you have D&O shares on the patents infringement, green.
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Green LT
With what benefits?
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marvellous s3mn
boss ady run , left u guys here
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来都来了
not limit down leh
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marvellous s3mn
why minit down? 慢慢让散户去玩,反正老板已经跑了
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来都来了
alang2 20% only .. little more
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cheng
more to clarity though damage has been done, green. if it is true that its patents infringement, the disputed products line-up will never make it to the market anymore in the future; in countries covered by Nichia's patents. D&O has to release its own products or pay royalties to Nichia to use their patented products/solutions.
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Anthony Teo
All of you must be gipile students. This so hai chen recommend stock almost all will die hard. Love your money and stay away. You pay them money this so hai chen will not die but all followers will
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