Wayne's comment on GENM. All Comments

Wayne
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Good news! No more material litigation
Vin Vin
Still pending...
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cheng
GAI has just filed the defense against RAV Bahamas on 22nd of Nov per the plan; basically court actions just started if you will.
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Vin Vin
Cheng, It's seen like still need a month or more only can settle this case...
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cheng
One month will be considered really fast. I have no idea how long it will take. Basically, GAI has submitted motion to dismiss the claim and its more than 30 pages :) The outcome that I am hoping is GAI to exit Bimini business after this. After all, the rumour of Genting wanted to sell the Bimini resort should be true and could have triggered the whole thing :)
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Vin Vin
Yeah.. But Look at miami land... It take more than 5 years still can't find buyer too..
Now focus more on gens better.. Next year will be better year for genting
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cheng
Genting's leisure and hospitality segment major contributors are - GenS, GenM (Malaysia) and US (RWLVS) followed by UK + GenM (US - NYC, Hudson Valley, Catskills, Bahamas). GenS's growth is on-going with RWS2.0. RWNYC full casino license is key for Genting's growth. Both of these shall the be key driver for Genting in the future.
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cheng
As Is - If I were to go by numbers; RWLVS (1bil revenue) and GenM US (500M revenue). RWNYC full casino license will bring it closer to RWLVS contribution :) And hopefully, exit Bahamas segment in the future.
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Whack9e
Cheng, just 1 question. would you add more your holding?
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Vin Vin
Thx again for the great info! Cheng
Then I need top up a little and hold til year of 2025.. Wish us luck
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cheng
I will add but not now, Whack9e. I would like to see a min 250M net profit results at the back of 700M ebitda for Q3. My personal expectation is 250M each quarter to justify a valuation of 3.00 for GenM; without RWNYC full casino license.
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cheng
You are welcome, Vin :)
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Jamie Leong
Good time to buy on weakness now
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cheng
The next nevada gaming commission meeting will be held on 19th Dec. Hopefully, there will be disposition plan for the AML complaints related to RWLVS by then; putting a closure to the chapter since Aug'24.
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Jian Wei
What’s your thoughts on this result cheng?
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cheng
It has been hammered in the past by forex losses and its GenM's turn to steal the limelight, jian wei. Lol, no pun intended. my personal expectation is just 700M ebitda and min 250M net profit and it delivered 1.05bil ebitda 569M net profit. Leisure and hospitality segment itself delivered 721M ebitda. No risk to dividend payout as usual :) The only thing that I could not figure out is the 200M ppe write-offs whether it is related to the two gaming facilities that were closed for renovations. ebitda would have hit 1.2bil without the write-off. It will be the same similar expectation going into Q4 even though its holiday season; leisure and hospitality segment should be trending to mid 700M to high 700M ebitda. The growth opportunity for GenM is RWNYC full casino license and it will be seasonal until then - festive/holiday seasons driving higher footfalls from domestic tourists and international tourists. There are some plus and minus from revenue for different segments; within single digit comparing to Q2; flattish if you will. just my opinions, could be wrong. hope it helps
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Jian Wei
Will you be adding your position tomorrow ?
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cheng
provided it did not gap up, jian wei :) my situation may not be the same as yours - avg price, rate of returns, risk tolerance, tp target, 15 cents yearly dividend, investment timeframe and etc. Putting all these aside; though I am at running loss below 2.24, it is still considered favorable for me to add below 2.18 and 2.00 based on underlying assumptions that I have baked into my own calculations. I will exit if (1) min 15 cents yearly dividend is at risk from the earnings report (2) unsuccessful bidding of RWNYC full casino license. These are just my own plans tailor made to my own assumptions back in 2nd half of 2023 when I first bought GenM at 2.45.
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Jian Wei
It would be interesting to see what happens when market opens haha, I bought some at 2.12 during market closed yesterday as I knew the forex gain will be massive ..but anyway, I agree that as long as GENM can maintain dividend payout of 15sen, it would be very worthwhile to buy genm as long as it is below 2.2
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Hock Huo Lee
开盘2.16而已

genm没有买气

genting开盘才3.77

够力了双 GG COM住总统套房子我

也好不用涨那么快给我点时间存钱买点genm下个月我要买点拉低成本
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Yan Hooi Tan
218都买不到!217你卖就很多人抢了。
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Mira[Y]cle
恭喜呀,这次要飞到月亮去了
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Hock Huo Lee
yes又跌下来2.18了
不要那么快涨

等我有子弹补下先
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bppoh75 poh
说好的月亮呢?只爬到一楼就没力了。。。。
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cheng
thats a really nice entry price, jian wei. near term volatility expected due to index funds rebalancing as GenM being replaced by Gamuda and everything will be sorted out when the changes takes place by 24th Dec :)
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Vunloong Chia
Cheng, is the 15 cents dividend sustainable in the near term?
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cheng
what is your perspective on this, vun? dividend is quite a topic as I have seen quite some comments related to dividend including using debt for dividend :)
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bppoh75 poh
no more steam ya?
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cheng
steam from index funds rebalancing for FTSE KLCI constituents change in Dec, Q4'24 year end holiday and festive seasons results by Feb'25. Major steam in 2025 (second half) is the NYC casino license bidding for RWNYC. Results will be known by end of 2025 or early 2026. With Trump's presidency, it can go either way - earlier dates or later dates.
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Vin Vin
Cheng, recently genting berhad drop til mum also can't recognise.. Possible something bad news on up coming RWLV?
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cheng
there's no disposition plan for the RWLV complaints yet, Vin.
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cheng
Here's where I check for early information on the disposition plan and no disposition plan for RWLV in Dec 4th meeting agenda - by checking the meeting agenda upfront:) https://gaming.nv.gov/about/agenda-disposition/minutes/
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Vin Vin
Ok. Thx alot sir. Let's wait for the taurx by this year end..
Genm price still above the support but mother look quite bearish now
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Hock Huo Lee
(吉隆坡2日讯)云顶大马(GENM,4715,主板消费产品服务组)目前没有立即的计划以重开自2月28日起关闭的云顶娱乐场1(Circus Palace)和云顶娱乐场2(Hollywood),分析员对此进展深感惊讶,因此下调云顶大马的盈利预测。

马银行研究分析员在报告中指出,云顶大马是于上周的的业绩汇报电话会议中透露此出乎意料的消息。

据云顶大马表示,只在有足够需求时,才会重新开放这两个赌场区域。

有关赌场是于今年2月突然关闭,原因是需求不明朗,云顶大马随后表示,计划进行升级改造后再重新开放。

然而,消息人士告诉《亚博汇》,似乎这些楼层正进行“极低限度的翻新工程”。

马银行研究分析员在得知云顶大马没有立即计划重新开放云顶名胜世界(RWG)的3个赌场楼层中的两个楼层后,下调了云顶大马的盈利预测。

该分析员表示,他对云顶尚未披露重新开放该赌场大厅的具体计划感到“惊讶”。

“我们原本预计这两个博彩大厅大约在这个时候重新开放,以把握年终假期的商机。”

该分析员因此将云顶大马的长期盈利预测下调高达21%,并将名胜世界大众市场全年博彩总营收下调25%,以纳入这两个赌场持续关闭所带来的
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Kwong Mingkwei
不是公司不想开,而是没有生意,开了要开销的 ,所以公司面对运营上的问题,长此以往,不堪设想哦…
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cheng
Thanks, Hock :) Sounds good.
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MarshallT
wonder where they get the info on no immediate plan to reopen the casino floor :P
Don't be surprise if it reopen next week. :)
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cheng
investor briefing probably. no idea about reopening next week. However, (1) current leisure and hospitality (without the two assets) revenue is higher compared to pre-pandemic / with the two assets. (2) the 200M hit to the pbt due to asset write-off will not be there in Q4 and depreciation will be lower in the future too.
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Kwong Mingkwei
你不要看到很多车排队上去就以为很多人去赌,年轻一代的是去gaigai,去拍拖,去凉快凉快。很多年都生意不好了还看不出来?老板气到要收买路钱了……
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kok boon liu
kwong,生意时好时坏是有的。现在的社会咖啡店都跟你征收冷气费了,还有什么出奇。当然我也不赞成收过路钱。偏财嘛!有舍有得。不过名胜绝对是老板的提款机,不要怀疑
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Hock Huo Lee
kwong mingkwei你没有每次在赌场待2星期
哪里知道赌场生意好不好

生意几好你都不知道
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陳謙詠
上个月,印度新年Deepavali我去了3天,人是很多,但赌的人得少,给我感觉看到的大多数是退休人士多,下来的是就是中年人,年轻的几乎没看到.有很多赌桌都没人.
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kok boon liu
陈,他们讲得是对的,网赌猖獗。现在的年轻人都在网赌了。我这边连大族都在做网赌卜基。不是说赌的人少了。是时代变迁,手机上手就OK。网赌的流水账之前有人在这边讲过,应该不少
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Karen Yit Fun Tang
跌出30大,云顶已经过时了? 风光不再?会不会去到1块呢?
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Elton Chan
PE10以下再看~~~
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cheng
lets see whether net short positions will continue to move lower moving forward :)
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Eddy Khoo
short been trying hard to suppress for the past one week. are they going to suppress more or covering their positions soon.
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cheng
net short position reduced by ~2M as of yesterday, Eddy.
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Eddy Khoo
possible the net short would be up today looking at how the price being suppressed back from 2.2 to 2.12
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cheng
it came down by another 2M, Eddy.
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Eddy Khoo
hmmm they are covering their position, yet genm price is being suppressed too.
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cheng
balanced between buyers and sellers judging by the dojis. possible reversal in the making?
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Eddy Khoo
seem shorties still not done with GenM
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Chen Kit
Where to find company that borrow loan to pay their shareholder dividend
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bppoh75 poh
Kit, if u found such company, run as fast as u can
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cheng
how do you know company borrow loan to pay dividend, chen kit, bppoh?
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bppoh75 poh
chen, probably check their operating cash flow is a good start.
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cheng
thanks, bppoh. If thats the case, loan to pay dividend is not true right? :)
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bppoh75 poh
I don't think this is the case for genm
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cheng
thats right, bppoh :) 1.86bil cash generated from its operations for 9 months and GenM typically pays approx 900M dividend yearly in the past. So, a conservative indicator to keep an eye will be 900M operating cash. If the number goes below 900M, dividend is no longer sustainable from its operation.
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