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nothing to do with haters vs lovers. the discussion should always have pros and cons for investors to properly consider. see how many people calling for others to go all in...that is dangerous for some people who get influenced by others easily. EPF has stake in the company, most people are affected. if the company is clean and the share go back up, it is good. but for now, people should properly consider the information laid out and reported, not just cherry pick the supposedly good information