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CT Goh... Ur here as well. What is ur though on low oil price impact on this counter? Positive or negative?
cheng
hi David, I would say no direct correlations. rationale is that samchem distributes chemicals, lubricants and specialty chemicals from petrochem companies like exxonmobil, basf, shell, petronas, shin-etsu and etc. low oil price means low napthta price which is the feedstock for most petrochem companies, it's the first product from first cracking of crude oil. e.g. polyurethane that samchem sells is obtained after multiple cracking of naptha.
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cheng
low crude oil means low naptha, means high margins for petrochem. prices of the chemicals produced doesn't fluctuate that much unless there is a supply and demand issue, or higher naptha price resulting in petrochem companies adjusting their selling price. when that happens, it affects samchem's cogs. another element that has a direct impact on samchem is the exchange rates, usd/myr, usd/vnd and indo rph/usd. usd strengthening helps the net profit of samchem.
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cheng
supply and demand can be affected by (1) disruptions at petrochem companies (2) increase in fiscal budgets for countries where samchem is selling it's products. eg Vietnam high speed rail project which is under review now. if Viet gov decided to proceed with the scaled down cost of the project, then, we should see increase of sales from vietnam. same goes to Malaysia and Indonesia.
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cheng
closer to samchem, it marked the entry to 1bil revenue last year after 10 years; cagr of 14% which is quiet impressive. as samchem distributes chemicals instead of producing and selling, the capex wouldn't be much. hence, controls of working capitals is important. last two years free cash flow was hit by working capital - higher inventories and receivables. going into this year, it is noted that better controls is seen from it's recent qr. there are signs that it will return to positive fcf
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cheng
have to monitor it's next two qr performance still. imo - current price is selling near 40% margin of safety at 0.55 and 0.46 at 50% margin of safety. it has 0.03 cents dividend which is not too bad and the intrinsic value to me is at 0.73 cents using some conservative figures. it's a bit lengthy comments and just my opinions and could be wrong. Hope it helps with your research.
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david
Thanks for the details analysis
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cheng
you are welcome, David.
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eng hock ooi
parking for learning.
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Jsudass Kasinathan
Comforting .. comments
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cheng
Waiting for it's upcoming qr report by early Nov. let's see how it is doing by then.
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Tzyh Cheng
hi CT Goh, just go thru its 2018 report and found out its high debt to equity ratio of 119%. is this consider a bit risky for or it is normal for this industry?
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cheng
hi tzyh cheng, can share how do you get the percentage from the annual report? we can exchange opinions. opportunity for learning. I just had a look at the report and my calculation is 6.4% = 0.064.
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Water Bong
learning....
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Tzyh Cheng
CT Goh, I directly check the ratio at page 96. haha. mind to share how you calculate yours?
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cheng
ooh ok, tzyh cheng. I am using slightly different debt to equity calculations. as it involves risk, I am more concerned with long term debt. short term debt is understood as part of the business and less sensitive to changes in interest rates compared to long term debt. hence, I prefer to look at long term debt which can be a risk to the business. if you go to page 28, I am using total non-current liabilities / total equity. that gives me a quick assessment of long term risk.
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cheng
different ways of looking at debt to equity for the state of it's financial health. some may even go deeper into current and quick ratios, consolidated versus standalone statement of financial position as per ias27 and ifrs10 requirements. won't go there as that is the topics for the professionals, CFA. they are the experts in this field.
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Water Bong
Hi guys, abit complicated for the layman like me. what is the final conclusion? good or bad....?
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Tzyh Cheng
I'm a bit concerned on this matter. maybe will monitor a few qr and see. Water bong I'm layman too. got some sifu recommend so I come and check it out. haha
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Water Bong
anyway, really grateful get the info from the people like u all via this platform
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cheng
good move, tzyh cheng. waiting for next qr too. best is to follow own plan, water bong.
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Water Bong
Roger, thx for advise.....
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PAN YONG FOO
thank you for sharing
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cheng
you are welcome, pan. Let's wait for it's upcoming quarters. it will be good to see how it's doing. whether the $1 bil revenue mark is a fluke or for real. if it is real, imo - it's undervalued and hopefully the mgmt will continue to work hard to unlock it's value. most undervalued counters started moving up strongly while this is still stagnant. manage the downside well. Just my opinions, could be wrong and hope it helps.
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PAN YONG FOO
i am line up on price 0.58..i am still newbie in share invest..really appreciated for u all sharing..
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david
In 400lots at 58 to fight report
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david
Take profit 200 lots at 735.
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cheng
congrats and happy for you, David. Really pro.
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Yf Fou
congrats... I wait for challenge 52W record
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cheng
give it some time. when the profit growth start improving, it will be there :)
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John Chia
Stil under value based on balance sheet
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david
Spike to sharp. Potential for week trade when back to 70 zone. Play for weekend money if there any.
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david
Look like no oil laio. Thinking to swap to others good prospects counter... Serbak, TGuan
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Yf Fou
David ... this counter look like back to sleep mood right ? volume too small
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Yf Fou
take profit ... thanks for sharing
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david
Congrats, still holding 200lots as not able to deal at 74. See how tmr, will swap to MI or serbak.
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