SH GOH's comment on DUFU. All Comments

SH GOH
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回到2018年的业绩。如果以2018年的股价来说的话,dufu大概只值8毛。
yap yap
Dufu rm6 gogogo
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SEA BOBO
接下来应该是轮到封装测试公司闪耀的时候了。数据中心里面有大量的cpu跟gpu。除此之外,还有fpga跟各种各样的asic。这些芯片都是需要封装测试才能出货,并且布局在数据中心。大马有四大天王,各有千秋。个人认为要趁早布局,不然等到下半年有AI功能的IPhone跟PC都出现了后,那就太迟了。
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SEA BOBO
从四大天王的股价看已经偷跑了一阵子。
不过还是很便宜哈哈 :)
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yap yap
Cpu和gpu我不看好,因为中国晶片产能过剩。价钱应该拉不上来。dufu是special case 来的,他专科记忆体硬件。seagate 和wd 御用的。
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SEA BOBO
中国生产的芯片大多数都是mature node的产品。用tsmc的marketing话术来说的话就是10nm以下的芯片中国都有能力大量生产。不过一些特别的芯片如inari主要客户的产品,中国可没有这方面的技术。这是我们可以留意的。
顺带一提,因为中美贸易战的关系,原本跟中国下单的公司都转移来马了。这个是我们的moat,没有地渊政治问题的moat。这也是为什么我会说可以留意大马的封装测试了。
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Koh Randy
其实四大天王已经跑了。inari mpi gtronic and unisem 对吧
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yap yap
所以咯,因为中国过剩,高端封装都轮不到马来西亚,在台湾就能搞定。低端封装库存又过剩,你说封装股就有点硬水。
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SEA BOBO
erm,你说的有道理。不过现在跟以前不一样了。现在客户prefer跟没有地渊政治问题的国家处在的公司下单,以避免突然有一天什么货都拿不到。台湾有台海危机,老美又在想着如何应对中国的产能过剩问题。。。
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SEA BOBO
相信在China Plus One的策略下,大马的四大天王会慢慢地越来越huat
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Steve Cheah Siew Wai
steady bom bibi
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yap yap
现在还不是时候,等库存跌到70天,那四大就有机会,现在130天库存,很难涨。四大天王要stanby impairment,过度扩充了,revenue 跟不上, 产能利用率应该还会降。
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SEA BOBO
讲真,要准准入场是很考验个人的经验的。但是risk and reward摆到明那么吸引了,我就不解了为何不进场。等看到帐面变美的时候就太迟了。
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SEA BOBO
Yup, 你说的没错。
我比较喜欢把公司的发展跟技术摆在第一位。这样我晚上睡觉也不用太担心。

我比较喜欢用低价买入有潜质的公司,而且我买的timing超烂的。所以只要价格合适,公司未来也不错的情况下,我都会入手。

但是失去的是机会,因为投进去的钱会卡死在里面。
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yap yap
今天的资本的报酬是5%,如何要赚到5%利息,
第一,你公司就算利息没5%,但业绩成长高过5%,市场就会期待你的成长cover 5%的利息
第二,如果你公司业绩没有5%成长,你的股价就要跌到去dy 5%的位置。
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SH GOH
bobo,没有人可以买在最低点,也没有人可以卖在最高点。只要自己会控制,有自己的一套买卖机制就可以了(看得出来你也很厉害)
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Elisiay yoki
buy last minute and sell last minute
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Ang Lian Jiae
我有朋友在dufu 里面做,他说四月起变得很忙了
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Elisiay yoki
cannot liao,Taliban start war
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Artus Go
老板卖股哈。。。。。。。
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chong SweeCharBoh
Elisiay , are you sure, they are having war now?
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Oong KuokSung
up fast down fast, gonna be extremely patience
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SEA BOBO
Lol, Iran told Reuters there was no missle attack in Iran. It means Iran is trying to downplay the situation to avoid further escalation.
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Paris Olympic
bobo it’s a joke, hahaha.
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SEA BOBO
Lmao, it's a show. Iran re-opens their airport already.
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yap yap
基本面没改变,Ai钱投进来了,dufu 订单回来了。短期波动一定有。如果打仗就漂亮,打仗就能带蹦美元。美国资本外流。
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Oong KuokSung
Tomorrow Seagate will announce earnings. Western Digital on coming Thursday. Dufu probably next week.
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SEA BOBO
I expect bullish outlooks.
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SEA BOBO
As expected, Seagate revenue and eps beat the analysts estimation.
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Admiral Adama
Earning Hightlight:

Mass Capacity demand improved sequentially, led
by stronger nearline Cloud more than offsetting
seasonally lower VIA demand

Nearline revenue increased sequentially for the
second consecutive quarter reflecting higher sales
into both US and China cloud customers and
stabilized enterprise demand

VIA market inline with expectations; anticipating VIA
to reflect more typical seasonal patterns through
CY24 with the March quarter representing the low
point
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Choo
臭豆腐变黄金豆腐了吗?我等很久了..........
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SEA BOBO
Ya, stx guided 1.8 billion revenue next quarter. We can anticipate strong recovery coming soon... Tmr will be WDC turn, stay tuned...
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Oong KuokSung
lets go@
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yap yap
可以limit up吗?
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SEA BOBO
Over the next several years, the volume of AI-generated content is expected to increase and also shift toward more imagery and videos, which can be up to 1,000 times larger than text. These trends bode well for HDD demand over the long term, as HDDs remain the most cost-effective means to house and subsequently use mass capacity data.
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SEA BOBO
I'm fking bullish on WDC HDD demand... Let's see what they say tonight... Turnaround for dufu should be at the corner...
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yap yap
没有记忆体,大ai模型是无法学习的。
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Oong KuokSung
WDC earnings on 25th Apr After Hours
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Aubergine Phang
Memory disc demand will surge for sure
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SEA BOBO
WDC 2024 Q1 HDD shipment records the highest exabyte shipped in the last 6 quarters... The turnaround for dufu is real... Either this quarter or next quarter the result would be pretty "heng" again...
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Admiral Adama
Exabyte shipment increased 41% qoq, asp increased 18% qoq.
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Boo man
ya crazy quarter. earning cals mentions will continue increase
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Eric S
WDC forecast 33% gross profit margin
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SEA BOBO
for HDD, we see it as all the data that's going to feed that process is going to sit on HDDs. And obviously, once those models get trained, they're going to turn out data that's 85% plus of that is going to be stored on HDD.
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SEA BOBO
This is an "AI" stock, market just haven't realised that we can create a story to link them up... WDC earnings call is very informative
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yap yap
fed还没降息前,hold着不用跑,一旦降息,赶紧跑路。
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David Lai
yap yap 大佬,是股价跑。。还是拿钱跑啊? 那么刺激。。
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yap yap
David, 你要明白升息周期受益股,和升息周期受害股。在fed 升息的时候,股票依然很强势,在还没降息之前不要跑。一旦fed 降息,那些钱就会从强势股例如ytl, ytl power, 跑去那些升息受害股,例如genm, mflour, annjoo. 传统产业。跟着钱的流向
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qiu xuanmiao
yap yap老大 可以讲讲怎么样是升息受益股吗?
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yap yap
qiu,股价不停的创高的应该就是受益股咯。我也不大清楚,我瞎掰的。
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SEA BOBO
有人去AGM吗?
有的话可以分享一下管理层说了什么吗?
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Admiral Adama
听说现在厂房使用率70%,预期今年单位数成长。。。
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SEA BOBO
@Adama 谢谢你的info。
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SEA BOBO
DUFU 周年股东大会

✔️ 管理层表示今年的盈利保持在低二位数增长率

✔️工厂的utilisation rate 在2023年平均在60%,而现今工厂的utilisation rate 是70%

✔️管理层表示他们预计接下来的几年内,HDD的盈利增长为10%;NON HDD的盈利增长是20%

✔️在总盈利中,HDD还是占据了高达70%营业额,而其余的30%是来自于其他业务。

✔️Bukit Minyak 的新工厂已经在去年投入运营,专注于Sheet Metal Fabrication 的业务。管理层表示他们预计今年的业务会增长在20%,而接下来五年会维持在10-20%的增长率。

✔️总结来说,管理层会继续开拓业务市场以增加市场份额。与其同时也会考察新的领域,寻求发展机会。

WY, Stockaholics
Growth • Through • Sharing

我从fb偷过来的,credit to Stockaholics。
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SEA BOBO
坏消息?
Sell on news?
Q1 earnings yoy跌?
我也不知道,copy and patse罢了
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yap yap
Sea, 不用担心,市场很多guru buycall, 现在应该很多人赚一点就套现离场。会涨到改变信仰。现在很多国家正在build up data centre, 我希望dufu今天跌个8%下来。洗一洗daytrader的筹码。
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yap yap
Sea, Yoy 应该差一点,但股价早都反应了,现在看的是qoq的增长,qoq的revenue 又没有增加,看的是Hdd行业的复苏。订单有没有回来。
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SEA BOBO
我没担心 haha
只是有人问我dufu agm有什么坏消息
我就一五一十地回答咯
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yap yap
盈利如果双位数增长率,70% utilisation rate而已,如果80%,90%,很恐怖一下leh,代表发展空间很大咯。管理层意思str demand。。酱就要加注咯。
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Deric Tan
gosh,, the result so bad
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Eric S
the result so so good
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SEA BOBO
Doesn't matter the result good or not, I've already got the answer from the QR. Same as what they said in the AGM, the worst is over and they will start to grow in the upcoming quarters.
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SEA BOBO
It takes time to recover, definitely not a 'V' shape recovery that investors dream of but it's ok :). Just stay invested through the whole upcycle and enjoy the ride.
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散户的机会
Go back 1.7 at 1 month
Let’s see
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Eric S
wonder why the gross profit margin so low
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Admiral Adama
Bobo, how about focus on those company that benefit from front end semicon industry chain? Definitely v shape recovery.
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HK Chong
I think recovery on next quarter will be more significant, based on the prospect in qr :)
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SEA BOBO
@Adama, you mean Sam Engineering is it haha.
Very good company, but the current price is not something that I am comfortable with.
Just a heads up, I think most likely they will need to do some corporate activities like issuing right issues or even private placement in the future to support their aggressive growth plan.

@HK Chong
Yes, definitely.
The management purposely release the QR after the AGM session. They also don't wish the price to plummet due to the poor result xD
Investing is all about the improving earnings in the future, not the previous nor current one.
Since the management already mentioned that they will grow at least 10% in HDD and 20% in their metal stamping division, I expect the upcoming QRs will achieve YoY and QoQ growth.
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Fly me to the Moon
There is a foreign exchange loss if RM3 Mil.

in preceeding quarter, there is a gain of 2++ million.
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Admiral Adama
Haha good stuff never cheap. Dont u think they deserve some premium since they did not suffer a huge revenue/profit drop like many other bursa semicon related company. Althought their hdd/sdd equipment segment suffer too last year but their front end segment still continue growing fast.
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SEA BOBO
Their price is already premium in my opinion. It's a great company managed by great managers. No doubt they will continue to grow in this year. But the price isn't that attractive to me at this moment. Just my two cents, cheers.
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Admiral Adama
Yup, cheap bargain price was months ago when retailers dumped because of the right issue.
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yap yap
跟unisem完全一样的套路,应该很快会有好消息。利空不跌,加上qr看到加大中国投资。很快
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SEA BOBO
Ya, it was an opportunity when the stock price dropped below the issued price of the right issue... I missed it...
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Koh Randy
what is the right issue price @sea bobo
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SEA BOBO
@yap
投了就放着呗,只要没有什么坏消息,股价是不会跌的。
接下来的QR都是会继续成长,所以股价起是合理的。
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yap yap
sea
接下来应该是消息面,美国商务部放松对中国Ai晶片管制。dufu又在中国扩大投资,大概率有关系。很快消息会出来
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Mark Lim
你们应该说,ai数据中心需要大量hdd
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yap yap
sea
我大胆预测,dufu有机会去到10快
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Admiral Adama
豆腐牛逼!!!gogogo!
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Jason Yzs
kuat harimau dufu ni
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散户的机会
大大力打我脸,Pak Q punya market
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SEA BOBO
10 块根本不logic。。。哈哈
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Steve Cheah Siew Wai
要成功, 先要学习画大饼, 像 Topglov, 画个 30块, 再来 100块, 结果。。。。哈哈哈
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Admiral Adama
Ops翻车了。。。
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Patrick Chai
IDDS volume up today, same like TG kena bought down.
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yap yap
Adama
你觉得翻车,人家才start engine.。vroom vroom
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yap yap
Sea
10快市值才多少,50多亿,科技股你要用未来折现现在股价,你才搞得懂。科技股看的是未来现金流。
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Admiral Adama
50亿市值我也想,但是靠什么?靠吹吗?
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Paris Olympic
安啦,dufu最差时期已经过去,接下来耐心点投资等待,下半年一定有好果子吃喔。
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yap yap
Adama
需要你帮忙吹,哈哈
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SEA BOBO
@adama 你的kobay and sam去了月球了。恭喜恭喜。
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Admiral Adama
哈哈谢了,不过嘛我有留言提起的股不代表我一定有票,我没留言也不代表我没有票。

我只是喜欢和各路英雄好汉交流而已。。。
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Ck Wong
新的HAMR技术会是dufu成长的障碍,disk只需10片,spacer只需要9片,但容量可以很大,以前容量越大,disk越多,dufu的spacer也越多,所以Dufu的想象空间很大,但现在这个新技术恐怕会limit了Dufu的想象空间
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SEA BOBO
Yes 你说的对。
现在large capacity 的 hdd最多就只有10片disks。
我想要分享一下我的见解,如果有问题麻烦纠正。我先从downsides说起,
1。HAMR里面用的是titanium而不是smr里面用的aluminium,理应该来说可以fetch higher price。不过之前hdd的价格plunge了很久了,所以不能expect spacer的价格能现在立刻就起价。
2。在未来hdd的shipment会越来越少,而且主要顾客都是CSP,而且ship出去的product都几乎会是nearline hdd。所以spacer的需求不能expect会一直成长下去。
3。现阶段csp的主要capex都比较注重于AI server,意思就是囤gpu,而hdd是属于conventional data center里面的其中一个component,所以我也不expect hdd的demand在这个阶段因为“我对你 ‘AI AI AI' 不完”而有significant的提升。
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Admiral Adama
Helium filled hamr hdd need to use titanium spacer which fetch a higher margin...
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SEA BOBO
当然downsides还有很多,不过我看到的upsides是
1。CSP在囤完了gpu,搞出了超强的大模型llm后,就会开始思考如何把大模型的产出store起来。逻辑上,这种类型的储存都是存在hdd里面。毕竟省钱是large capacity hdd最主要的卖点。
2。hamr是一个很重要的技术,如果一个plate做不到5tb甚至更高的话,在不久的将来cost per bit就会真的比ssd还要贵了。hamr里面需要很耐用的材料,而titanium spacer可以fetch更高的价钱。今年seagate才刚开始ship hamr hdd给customers,他们预计会ship 1个million个disks。
3。dufu本身也有做metal stamping这个业务,agm也说了每年要成长20%。个人觉得这个是令人鼓舞的,做不做得到就要继续观察了。。。
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AKIRA
SEA BOBO 有做功课。spacer 是会封顶在9片,接下来就要看储存空间的需求和发展
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Admiral Adama
理论上disk plate最高可以去到12片。
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Seagate 有新的技术了 更加大的
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