Kyory Lau's comment on GENTING. All Comments

Kyory Lau
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Short term down trend crossing have emerge, anything near RM5 or below I will accummulate more.
Cw Lim
never sell a single lot, lagi got div , wakaka
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Fortune Family Office
huat ah....
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Yu Cheng
genting powerlah!!!!
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Wei ban Ng
huat a, just top up more genting share
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Fortune Family Office
Wah.... huat huat... uptrend... not downtrend :P
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CK Meng
wow. what a surprise. I didn't see it coming. huat ah
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Fortune Family Office
@ck meng, kyory didn't either ;) many doesn't too
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Cw Lim
div is for lv , capital gain for the 7, this my discipline
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Fortune Family Office
div is for yatch , capital gain for buildings , I like it ;)
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Kyory Lau
Chance coming.. Genting 1st support RM5.02 and GenM RM3.03
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Jj Chew
Kyory Lau hope you are right, waiting to join you guys
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Jeffrey Chan
of couse Kyory is right.... the RSI for both GenT and GenM is currently quite high at 79%.. so sell off is inevitable - for profit takers. I understand that normally RSI between 60% - 70% would be preferred as nice balance for room to grow and enough momentum to sustain. Am i correct Kyory ?
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Kyory Lau
Hi Jeffrey, it is common to have profit taking even an uprising or up trend stock but normally for a stock that are in trending upward, the correction normally touch RSI between 50 to 60 will rebound not like those can touch below 30 unless world sudden big drop or bad news from the company that out of our control
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Jeffrey Chan
Thanks for clarifying Kyory. good to know
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Kyory Lau
Most welcome Jeffrey.. share info among ourself and hope this year Genting big gain and organise a trip to Genting next year before CNY to meet all shareholders here...:)
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Chloe C
Got support at 5.1, hard to get 5.02. Wanna top up if really 5.02
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Raymond Leong
S1 4.80 S2 4.50.
prefer find entry in this range
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Kyory Lau
Yes Chloe, good support at RM5.10..
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Eddie Tan
请问什么意思呢?有中文版吗?
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Jake
Too high now, maybe need to wait
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Raymond Chong
用 oppo. 自动翻译的。
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Kyory Lau
Hahaa.. Raymond help Oppo do marketing
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Kyory Lau
不建议用 margin 买股票 Alide. 你可以拿 RM40k 借贷 RM80k 买股但是如果您买的股票突然暴跌就会有 margin call. 不能 Top Up 就会卖丢您的股票之后用你的 deposit collaterals 来付.. 可能会输更多如果跌幅很大.
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Raymond Chong
要看看你玩margin, 还是margin玩你。
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Raymond Chong
给你一个tips,去top看看,如果你可以看明白你就毕业了。
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Raymond Chong
手套啦!很多人k.o 聊。
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Fortune Family Office
@Raymond, why... gloves ok wad... XD later virus evolve, lockdown starting again, sales go huat huat
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Raymond Chong
of course lah.. u a the best ma.. always win big money.
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Kyory Lau
Yes Alide.. anything?
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Fortune Family Office
depends on your margin position lo... lol.. you describe like an all in margin lol
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Raymond Chong
买到很低很低的价位也可以,比如云顶掉到3, 国能到8.
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Kyory Lau
Sorry Alide busy earlier. Yes you may pledges shares or funds on the margin account. Normally they will only take 50% of the shares value unless if you are using Maybank margin account and pledge Maybank shares then they will take higher value while funds are normally between 1.5 to 2 times depending on your broker also. For eg. if you place you place RM40k to the margin account and they give you 2 times means you can access to RM80k to buy shares.
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Kyory Lau
For eg. if you place RM40k and given 2 times which means you can access to RM80k funds to buy shares and take Genting as example and if you buy 15,000 shares at RM5 means you have utilise RM75k while balance funds is RM5k which the extra RM35k you use may need to pay interest while if Genting shares drop and losses do not exceed the balance RM5k then no margin call while if the unrealise losses balloon to RM10k or above then you will have margin call. I think better you check with your remisier
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Fortune Family Office
or scomi it... make 100% all cash, no force sell
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Kyory Lau
Yes you may pledge shares to open margin but if margin call you not able to top up more shares or funds to pledge or settle then they will sell off all your shares including those use to pledges at whatever market price to settle the margin call.
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Fortune Family Office
@alide lim, scomi is yielding >100% gains already ;)
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Kyory Lau
Means 1.25 times? The RM100k is including your RM40k?
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Kyory Lau
Sorry shall be 2.5 times including your RM40k
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Raymond Chong
2.5 time. good one. rhb 2.25!
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Kyory Lau
If including your RM40k pledge indeed is only 1.5 times.. if the credit line is RM100k excludes your RM40k means really 2.5 times
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Raymond Chong
如果抵押股票,margin call 时补钱也可以是吗?还是一定要卖票?
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Fortune Family Office
@alide lim, I meant goreng and make >100% gain, no need margin lol... huat huat....
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Fortune Family Office
Ask your broker? klci shares good multiple, normal shares lower, rubbish shares 0x limit. Cash best valuation... then multiply facility
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Fortune Family Office
dun forget those sneaky haircut and value caps too....
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Jeffrey Chan
Not wise to play Margin. I used to wok in Share Margin Financing a long time ago. below 60% already we chase customer from morning till night to top up or face force sale. Honestly, you will be better off playing with cash. Not worth risking as a sudden change in wind and you can face continuous down trend. Also, longer you hold, the riskier it is. I feel the market will go up but stabilize around 1650 points at least in the short term. To return to 1800 points is difficult. Dont forget come Sept, short sellers will enter market too
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Fortune Family Office
forced sell also can't cover, then suit until bankruptcy and owe remaining la... simple
If dunno, better dun touch la
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Jeffrey Chan
I know that it is tempting to see others enjoying the 'success wind' but remember they are probably investing with their own money they can afford to lose. you should see Mr BMW's shareholding.... close to 1MIllion units
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Raymond Chong
That's why we need waiting a good timing. just like tenaga Rm 8 - 25%?
so. if i buy Rm 8 o.k or not?
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Zac Tquios
You owe money because you used money not yours to buy stock and that stock are sold at a loss. You are to bear the losses. Please do not play margin if you do not fully understand the consequences.
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Jeffrey Chan
Tenaga 8.00? maybe next pandemic bro
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Kyory Lau
Hi Alide, for your query as below:

1) The RM40k pledge is depending how many times your broker allow and if you say so is 2.5 times means you got RM100k funds to use for buying or trading;

2) Depend on total shares and price you buy, losses is calculate on the drop of share price from your entry price nothing to do with the margin account limit. So for eg. if you buy 20,000 shares of Genting at RM5 and touch wood it drop all the way to RM3 means you lose 40% that is (RM2 × 20,000 = RM40k)
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Jeffrey Chan
By the way.. for SMF, shares don't belong to you ya... it belongs to the bank but placed in your account as collateral for your loan to buy more shares
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Kyory Lau
Your 3rd question if Genting drop to RM2 means lose 60% of the value from RM5 then your losses is RM60k means you lost your initial RM40k place as deposit plus RM20k you still own your broker
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Jeffrey Chan
At the end of the day, when you make a paper profit, you need to close account to realise the profit. You cannot hold forever the shares if not mistaken
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Raymond Chong
hihihi... if not 8.. will waiting durian jatuh....
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Jeffrey Chan
Bro, if you can get RM10 Tenaga also you better fast fast collect lo... if RM10, i confirm sure top up
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Raymond Chong
10 - 25% 7.5... is dangerous to me..
i will can't sleep can't eat... hihihi
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Jeffrey Chan
Alide... we can only share with you that for a start to invest in safe and stable shares (although boring shares) that brings good dividend first... start small... then slowly grow portfolio and gain confidence. avoid penny stocks (as risky - cause usually many small retailers and sharks like to goreng penny stocks), and buy in bulk.. take into account your brokerage costs, buy in bulk will allow you to have lower exit price point (after covering brokerage - usually around 2%) in case you need to run in a highly volatile price. Dont over diversify unless you have a few hundred Gs to invest. if you have limited, concentrate on 1 or 2. and oh, don't listen to anyone of us on stocks advice when buying and selling ... gud luck :-)
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QA PMK
Profit taking very strong
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lam yeesan
kyory lau may I know which platform are you using to trade US stock?
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Kyory Lau
Monex Boom Hong Kong YeeSan
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Fortune Family Office
I want huat... dun want near rm5...
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CK Meng
then forget about 5 and let's huat together
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Fortune Family Office
ooppp... want closing already... steady is better
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Jeffrey Chan
meanwhile... those who wait for 3.50.. sure neck long long already
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Zhen Zei Lee
Hi Kyory, based on the chart, now is still downtrend ?? Because these few days just going up and seem like no chance to buy again around 5...
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Fortune Family Office
When IB, retails, foreigners all chase, then only dump ;)
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Cw Lim
genting case different , foreign fund dont look for 10% 20% gain, and old men buy liao oso wont sell, therefore market will become less and less ticket, just remember ya old man wont sell, except one
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Fortune Family Office
@cw lim, lolol... again that one kacau ah
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Cw Lim
emma u good trading , dont trade genting la , trade other
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KT TEE
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Fortune Family Office
@Kt tee,... see they wnjoy armada today XD... I collect
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KT TEE
Emaaaaaa.....how did you make it!! you already holding most of the shares i am eyeing, and entered at much lower price!!
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Ron Ng
RSI showing Divergence, danger sign?
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Kuchiki Biakuya
If signal is reliable nobody working liao
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Fortune Family Office
Ah... yesterday's yum yum thought was high... today higher? XD
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Nicholas
Emma, u sold all yesterday? seems like today break higher
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Fortune Family Office
@Nicholas, why say I sold? Hm...
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Nicholas
Emma, thought u said yum yum means sold..haha..
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Fortune Family Office
@nicholas, oh.. yum yum means sold?! wow... I dunno what to say already... When last few day said ran out of wok to goreng those PN17 also got some smart ones got the hint already... and that wasn't even clear at all
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Nicholas
Emma, oh no..I am just asking only..If u still keep it then is great
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Fortune Family Office
good good... huat huat
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Fortune Family Office
Huat huat ah...
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CK Meng
Boom Shaka laka
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QA PMK
Indeed very HUAT this time
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Jeffrey Chan
There will be correction soon. I can feel it. When the moon is full, small traders will sell to make quick profit and Uncle will come out once again
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lam yeesan
Kyory Lau may I know which platform to invest US stock?
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Kyory Lau
Hi YeeSan, there are many platform can use to trade or invest in US shares. I am using Jong Kong Monex Boom
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Jeffrey Chan
https://www.klsescreener.com/v2/news/view/804387/recovery-catalyst

“For tourism related initiatives, such as the exemption of tourism tax and sales and service tax, individual tax deductions for tours and 10% electricity bill discount, this should help out hotels and REITs, Genting Bhd and aviation." - Hong Leong Investment Bank Research
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Fortune Family Office
Zzz.... need $$$... no IB want push this ah...
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Fortune Family Office
yes yes... past 5.50 liao... can dump... hehe
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Cw Lim
dump your head lah
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Fortune Family Office
@cw lim, gtfo and buy it lol... its red already
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Cw Lim
my target is earn 500k per year in klse, genting is my main force, wont trade
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Fortune Family Office
@cw lim, buyyyyyyy it
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teikchye kee
@BMW, you're very cute ppl. hahaha
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Wei ban Ng
top up some again,huat a
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Jeffrey Chan
My remisier says can buy once it drops to 5.30. so I am happy if it keeps dropping, can top up more
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