Jk Kee's comment on GENTING. All Comments

Jk Kee
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云顶几时会再破四呢?继续再等待买进。买个期待,送个等待,乐观看待!
Derrick Millionaire
The stock name tells you already , buy Genting , stuck at Genting
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Jk Kee
破浪兄看到的就是现在马股的近况,可以改变的情况真的需要耗蛮长的时间。我的能力真的有限,只能在马股浅游。你有机会走出去是对的选择,真心愿你能攀升更理想的未来。
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御风破浪
股市中,当基本面,技术面,筹码面,消息面,政治面等杂ba lang 面使出浑身解数,都无法实现盈利的时候,就要反思是不是已经“云吞面”(完蛋面)了
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Jk Kee
破浪兄的这段太经典了。我会记着的。哈哈
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Jk Kee
马股真的没有什么好选择,好的已经在高位徘徊了。真的买不下手,只能买这低部行走的。
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cheng
not to forget your own liquidity situation, investment timeframe and monitor the business growth progress / risks, jk. If your investment timeframe is one to 3 years, you can't be adding every week :)
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Harmes Zhang
要买定离手吗?XD
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御风破浪
JK ,上面只是一个小散户发发牢骚的言论,莫要影响你的投资计划。 散户的情绪也是重要的参考元素,叫“情绪面” XD
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Vin Cullen
Can't believe genm 219...
Almost drop to mco level...
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Jk Kee
谢谢破浪兄的提醒,会记住的。谢谢你。
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Meaw meaw Cat
more news to be explored soon.
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cheng
pricing for ftse klci constituent change perhaps, Vin. darkest before dawn. still waiting for q3 results before deciding the next add in plan.
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Nick Chung
Cheng I think is time to comment less... when it drops further some will start saying u are scammer... be wary, cheers
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Jk Kee
Cheng 我买了可以收个三五年的人,所以都是在定好的点加码的。
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cheng
Thanks, Nick. Its public forum and everyone is entitled to their opinions as long as being respectful. Let them be :)
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Jk Kee
Nick的提醒是对的。难免的,跌到七彩的时候,看笑话和嘲讽的比平常多得多。
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Vin Cullen
Agree.. Cheng...
I still waiting for the Q3 result..
weather need to buy more...
If the result still below 100m..
Another lower it could be..
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Jk Kee
Cheng 希望你不会去介意他们的话语。
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cheng
Lack of interests from funds/insti if it is below 100M. I will consider adding if it is above 250M and also fcfe factor. Waiting for the report.
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cheng
All is well, Jk. This platform is good as you have the option to mute or block; particularly if you see vulgar comments.
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Jk Kee
平台真的很好。可以学习很多东西。
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Jk Kee
我手上有五支股,云顶只是其一。
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cheng
Thanks, TN. I have just started small position in Genting and its still manageable. Will still be around unless it becomes euphoric or the fundamentals shifted negatively.
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Jk Kee
我是种树的,一般我都选择种五棵树,然后慢慢照顾着让它们慢慢长大。
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Jk Kee
五支股都会因它的个别发展而加减调整。
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Jk Kee
NT 只买一支股,相信你也不赞同吧!
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林明德
3.70 不远了,第一批货,3.60 第二批。
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mint
再跌再买,再跌再买!!坚持下去!!!!!
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Jk Kee
我手上两支种植股上到我理想的价后,我会卖掉。然后只要云顶再跌得更低,我应该会继续加码多一点在云顶上。
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Jk Kee
NT 相信有些本钱不够大,都只好买一支吧了!可是云顶真的还需要很长的时间才会有成绩的,耐不住就是那样了。
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Jk Kee
买云顶有时候真的感觉就是在赌,赌它药给批,赌它拿到赌牌,赌它标到的生意会更好,赌它。。。。。。。很多都是不定数的,就真的会觉得像赌博啊!
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Jk Kee
云顶还是我最看好的。另外两支科技股的一支并不是很看好能长期持有,卖了可能会加来慢慢买进云顶的。
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Kenny T
Actually the reason why Genting is falling is very simple. It is because ESG theme is the major music now. Look at all other gambling stocks like Sands, Caesars, and Wynn. They are all falling because institutions are abandoning them. There is nothing to do with fundamentals. We, as retail investors, should do opposite than what institutions do. Buy when they abandon. When the wind returns to sin stocks again, even pigs will be blown high. For the moment, just collect high dividend and stay patient. It is still better than savings your money in the bank.
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Jk Kee
当风再次吹起,牛也会飞起。
很秒的一句啊!
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Jk Kee
只要每个季度都赚钱就继续持有吧!尤其是现在的价钱根本不高,对吗?正如你所说的,真的比银行的定存好。
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Jk Kee
买了别看太多,好好的生活去吧!
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cheng
Thanks, Kenny :) and Genting's net leverage is ~3.5 :) Sands, Caesars, Wynn, and MGM which are higher than Genting.
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cheng
Recent earnings call from these companies that you mentioned may provide some pressure to RWLVS too, Kenny. Single digit revenue growth due to lack of major events driving lower footfall. Typical major events like the Super Bowl and F1 in Vegas are in Q4 to Q1 timeframe.
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cheng
Clean sweep by Trump in all swing state. Elon Musk and Trump sending cryptos to new high. Lol, no pun intended.
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cheng
ermm... i am not sure whether that's a correct hypothesis :)
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Jk Kee
99下个星期结束超过250,云顶就危险了。
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Ju Jing Yi
看market cap 就知道了,99 赢了-19 vs 14
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cheng
enjoy the volatility, jk :)
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Jk Kee
Cheng 你是对的。哈哈
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cheng
yup. lets wait for Q3 results and followed by ftse klci constituents review.
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Vin Cullen
Drop til no feeling ady... Wait for miracle....
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cheng
wait for reversal, vin :) momentum has no lower limit and upper limit; ignoring valuations if you will :) basically, driven by news and sentiments.
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Jiashen Teh
across the board in KLSE, most stocks are dropping after trump reelection because he is pro business and pro market, which causes money to flow back into us market.
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cheng
lets see whether any recommendation from UK MHRA from their Nov meeting next week.
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Jk Kee
好的。cheng 希望会带来好消息。
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Vin Cullen
Don't have any good news recently...
Cheng, how much profit do you expect for genting berhad? :-) 200m-300m???
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Vin Cullen
Today mrdiy plunge alot..
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cheng
same range as your expectation, Vin. Basically, GenM to cover for flattish performance from RWLVS and GenS. Full recovery back to 500M+/- per quarter will only happen starting as early as Q2'25 and to pick up from there onwards.
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Vin Cullen
Agree... Just wait for the qe and taurx to approve... Hope everything go smooth..
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cheng
well, so far so good for Genting. RWS2.0 started resulting in lower GenS contribution while GenM's operations are running without disruptions including RWLVS. Plantation segment riding on tight demand/supply which should continue until mid of 2025. Just in time for GenS to pick up while plantation segment goes into normalization. Then, comes RWNYC bidding status end of 2025 followed by pick up of O&G segment in 2026; will see contribution from O&G for the next 17 years
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cheng
All suites luxury hotel replacing Hard Rock Hotel is also scheduled to open first half of next year.
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Vin Cullen
2030 need to wait 5 more years.... Not sure I am still holding or not.. Haha...
BTW need to wait for Q2 gens to recover first
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cheng
Yeah, Thailand IR bid will probably be up by then and GenS will bid for it.
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eryx wong
Cheng, may I search your profile in fb
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cheng
I don't have fb, eryx. This is the only public platform that I am using for KLSE :)
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eryx wong
Noted Cheng , your info helpful
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cheng
All is well, eryx. Hope it helps :)
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Rys Lih Fak you
aiyo cheng cheng why block me I cennot see you tipsi liao
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Jk Kee
想要云顶跌的人还蛮多啊!证明了最近卖的人也真多。
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Jk Kee
终于看到等着买的人在等着低价的票,也该是时候多买点来收了。
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cheng
I am in the opinion that a lot more are probably waiting for reversal to ride on short term trading opportunities; particularly during the generally weak sentiments across the board :) Should be active post Q3 results.
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Jk Kee
希望这个反弹是真的。。。。。。。
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cheng
not yet, jk. it will be lively post confirmation of reversal :)
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Jk Kee
Cheng 谢谢你。那就只好等吧!
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pahang kia
singapore goverment already given warning to them i think they will do better upcoming quater
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cheng
gens q4'24 results will still be flattish, pahang kia. It will start to recover early next year upon launching of new attractions and the all-suite luxury hotel replacing hard rock hotel. as for sg gomen, they are just protecting their national interest - getting LVS Marina Bay and GenS to complete their capex upgrades soonest possible :)
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pahang kia
still have a lot room to be improve hope they can continue with team wang this kind superstar create more event lure more fans to RWS spend . team wang and neflix halloween is good idea i see the bright there they find thier way . sands unable to create different different kind of venue due to thier image and brand but RWS can create different type to venue to cater different age
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cheng
it will be better for sure :) additional 700 rooms from the new The Waterfront hotel will be added when its completed and Hard Rock Hotel is not the only hotel to be refurbished as there are a few more undergoing refurbishments.
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Jk Kee
99的市值没突破进25大,云顶继续保留在30大。云顶暂时安心了啊!
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Jk Kee
担心跌出三十大的大户们早前卖出,现在继续保留在三十大而在临尾大量买进吗?
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cheng
we have been waiting for Genting's financial performance to be released and no harm waiting for a few more days, Jk. We just need to be aware of short term earnings disruptions from GenS and recovery from GenS is expected early of next year. As for index constituents changes, Gamuda is set to replace GenM and there should be volatility resulting from index funds rebalancing. There should be changes to reserve list too.
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Jk Kee
Cheng 对的。云顶的业绩应该不太理想,希望保持着盈利。
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cheng
I hope it's within the same range compared to Q2'24; 200M to 300M for Q3 and Q4. Q4 could be better driven by RWLVS (F1) and GenM.
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Jk Kee
对啊!理想的盈利有两亿左右就很好了。明年才会有机会赚更多。
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cheng
GenP / Plantation segment results is out and did not disappoint. This segment should continue to report similar strength at least until Q2'25. GenS recovery will take over thereafter and if the supply/demand for cpo remains tight by Q2'25, the plantation segment will continue to report similar strength in its results. else, normalization is expected. GenM is up next followed by RWLVS which is part of Genting's results. RWLVS should be flattish in Q3 and better in Q4 driven by F1 event; seasonally driven.
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pahang kia
it will have forex gain at least 50m above estimate
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Jk Kee
很期待明天云顶的成绩单!哈哈
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Jk Kee
GenP我也是有支持的,买它好像比买云顶安心得多了。希望它继续派发诱人的股息。哈哈
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cheng
FY24 for GenP will be better than FY23. FY25 pretty much depends on the supply/demand situation towards mid of 2025. You may want to keep an eye on it. Looking good so far judging by FCPO trend without looking at the production/export/inventories data from MPOB and Indonesian palm oil association (GAPKI).
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Jk Kee
好的。谢谢cheng。
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Jk Kee
即使翻新和整修还能保持着两亿左右的盈利,真的很满意了。只要继续保持两亿左右或以上就真的很美了。派息的能力保持着,然后再等新的投资带来更多的收益。云顶加油!大家加油!
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cheng
Yes, it is jk :) It should be similar in Q4 for GenS flattish against q2 as the new attractions and refurbished all-suite luxury hotel will be opened early of next year, better for RWLVS against Q3 (due to F1), GenM Malaysia segment should be better than Q3 due to holiday season.
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Jk Kee
Cheng 真的只期待云顶一直保持两亿左右的盈利,然后直到新的业务的发展成熟带来盈利。
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Vin Cullen
Cheng, what do you think of this genting qe... It seem like look average... Wait for your advice :-)
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Jk Kee
继续保持两亿左右的盈利就足够派发现在每年都发给股东的股息了。
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cheng
yes it is, jk. Should be mid to high 200 due to festive season and F1. Its ok to use 200M as your own expectation. and FY24 eps will be trending to 33 cents based on 200M net profit for Q4. 3rd consecutive year of improvement. full year net profit estimate of 1.3bil for FY24 and PE15 will give you a high price 5.02. I think Genting's recovery from the pandemic is picking up steam.
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cheng
My situation could be different compared to yours as I have just joined at 4.02, Vin. Putting aside the difference in our entry price and the result is meeting our discussion previously which is within 200M to 300M range :) If you look at the net cash from operating activities: 5.3bil versus 5.0bil comparing the same 9 months in FY24 and FY23; that is real money that Genting can spend :) By Q4, i believed the net cash from operating activities will reach 7.3bil at min. I will be eyeing for opportunity to add on :)
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Jk Kee
有看到债务减少了和现金增加了一些。很好的分析,我也会继续加码的。
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Meaw meaw Cat
现金有增加吗 ? meaw 看到的是 减少了 到22, Xxx , 债务是少了, 现金也跟着少。
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Vin Cullen
Thx alot cheng...
Q1 for genting cash flow only 1.7b...
But Q3 cash flow increase to 5.3b...consider improve alot!! Let's hold til for Q1 25...
一飞不回头:-)
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Meaw meaw Cat
大家 冷静 。 明天 Capital A Or gen m Or genting ? Capitala. Limit up 应该走不掉了 。
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LF Goh
Meaw要看好才下手哦!祝你好运!
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Jamie Leong
买大还是买小呢?
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cheng
You are welcome, Vin. Q1'25 will see improved earnings from Gens but I think Q2'25 will be able to give a sneak preview of how big is the growth of RWS2.0; all suite luxury hotel is not the only hotel refurbished/to be built :) we may see 8bil qtrly revenue by 2026?
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